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    [11:02pm] balunasj: serogers: ok great - why don't you start - what did you want to cover?
    [11:03pm] serogers: Just that I've tagged, released, and uploaded the M5 docs
    [11:03pm] balunasj: serogers: excellent!
    [11:03pm] balunasj: serogers: so we'll push any comments from Markhel to CR1
    [11:03pm] serogers: I know we still had a few reviews, but since a lot had been postponed anyway I thought I should get the docs out and include changes for the next release
    [11:04pm] balunasj: ilya_shaikovsky: not sure if you were on email, but reminded markhel of drop down menu review.
    [11:04pm] serogers: Yeah, I saw that
    [11:04pm] balunasj: serogers: sure
    [11:05pm] balunasj: serogers: so for M5 you are all set?
    [11:05pm] serogers: Yes, I think so
    [11:05pm] balunasj: serogers: ok good
    [11:06pm] balunasj: so lets talk about CR1, and plans for that.
    [11:06pm] serogers: OK
    [11:06pm] balunasj: serogers: How much initial content is needed for the component guide ( minus review feedback ) ?
    [11:07pm] serogers: Umm... give me a second...
    [11:07pm] balunasj: fyi - just wanted to review https://issues.jboss.org/browse/RFPL-588 - see where we stand, etc...
    [11:07pm] jbossbot: jira [RFPL-588] RichFaces 4.0 Documentation [Open, Major, Sean Rogers] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/RFPL-588
    [11:07pm] balunasj: serogers: sure np
    [11:08pm] ilya_shaikovsky: pinged Andrey.. he just lost in jira because its RFPL and will do soon
    [11:09pm] balunasj: ilya_shaikovsky: ok
    [11:09pm] serogers: Mostly for the component guide I need to do the tree components, then there's a few here and there
    [11:10pm] serogers: So probably almost done. Then I need to do the skinning reference stuff
    [11:10pm] balunasj: serogers: ok - and push will likely need a fairly big effort
    [11:10pm] balunasj: ilya_shaikovsky: agree ^
    [11:14pm] serogers: I think the Developer Guide and Migration Guide are pretty good, but need reviews
    [11:14pm] serogers: and I know we discussed moving the Migration Guide to the wiki
    [11:14pm] balunasj: serogers: Dev guide for sure we need a good review.
    [11:15pm] balunasj: serogers: yup - the migration guide will likely just be in wiki
    [11:15pm] ilya_shaikovsky: yup when Nick will return I will discuss some questionable points and will work on a blog for push and create points for you in the same time
    [11:15pm] balunasj: ilya_shaikovsky: perfect!
    [11:16pm] serogers: Sounds good
    [11:16pm] balunasj: serogers: so for you big items remaining are
    [11:16pm] balunasj: component guide ( push, tree, skinning, minor misc )
    [11:16pm] balunasj:   - plus feedback
    [11:16pm] balunasj: dev guide - mostly just feedback
    [11:16pm] balunasj: migration
    [11:16pm] balunasj:  - assist with wiki move & updates
    [11:17pm] balunasj: sound about right?
    [11:17pm] balunasj: We also should figure out the generated doc stuff - but just always drops in priority
    [11:17pm] serogers: Yep, if we are not going to include the CDK guide at this stage
    [11:18pm] balunasj: The CDK guide is also secondary, but wish we could get it in
    [11:18pm] balunasj: if time
    [11:19pm] balunasj: serogers: the problem there - is I just don't see how we'll get the time
    [11:20pm] serogers: Not sure. I haven't looked too much at the CDK guide. Will the technical details have changed much since 3.3.X?
    [11:20pm] ilya_shaikovsky: unfortunatelly yes..
    [11:21pm] balunasj: basic concepts are the same, but major changes in how things work
    [11:21pm] serogers: Oh, OK. Otherwise I could just clean up the existing one.
    [11:21pm] ilya_shaikovsky: templating and configs and resource configs - three features used at most in guide changed completelly
    [11:21pm] balunasj: nope not for this
    [11:21pm] balunasj: plus 4.0 is more about component lib, than CDK
    [11:22pm] balunasj: for future releases we can think about showcasing the CDK, but for not mostly internal
    [11:22pm] serogers: OK
    [11:22pm] OndejZizka left the chat room. (Quit: Leaving.)
    [11:22pm] balunasj: serogers: are there any concerns or issues you would like to discuss?
    [11:23pm] balunasj: ilya_shaikovsky: We'll have to talk about how to split up tasks for review, but not sure atm
    [11:23pm] serogers: Can you just confirm for me the planning for the next few release dates?
    [11:24pm] balunasj: serogers: sure one sec
    [11:25pm] balunasj: http://community.jboss.org/wiki/RichFaces40ReleaseCenter has the latest info for current release
    [11:26pm] serogers: Great, thanks
    [11:27pm] serogers: So no specifics yet for CR2 and Final
    [11:27pm] balunasj: serogers: we can discuss offline
    [11:28pm] serogers: OK
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    [11:28pm] • balunasj reviewing if there is anything else for now
    [11:29pm] balunasj: serogers: ilya_shaikovsky : anything else for now?
    [11:29pm] serogers: Nothing else from me
    [11:30pm] ilya_shaikovsky: seem no from me too
    [11:30pm] balunasj: serogers: btw - next week Ilya and I are going to focus on migration tasks and wiki - just a heads up
    [11:30pm] balunasj: ok then - thanks
    [11:31pm] serogers: OK, thanks

    [11:02pm] balunasj: serogers: ok great - why don't you start - what did you want to cover?

    [11:03pm] serogers: Just that I've tagged, released, and uploaded the M5 docs

    [11:03pm] balunasj: serogers: excellent!

    [11:03pm] balunasj: serogers: so we'll push any comments from Markhel to CR1

    [11:03pm] serogers: I know we still had a few reviews, but since a lot had been postponed anyway I thought I should get the docs out and include changes for the next release

    [11:04pm] balunasj: ilya_shaikovsky: not sure if you were on email, but reminded markhel of drop down menu review.

    [11:04pm] serogers: Yeah, I saw that

    [11:04pm] balunasj: serogers: sure

    [11:05pm] balunasj: serogers: so for M5 you are all set?

    [11:05pm] serogers: Yes, I think so

    [11:05pm] balunasj: serogers: ok good

    [11:06pm] balunasj: so lets talk about CR1, and plans for that.

    [11:06pm] serogers: OK

    [11:06pm] balunasj: serogers: How much initial content is needed for the component guide ( minus review feedback ) ?

    [11:07pm] serogers: Umm... give me a second...

    [11:07pm] balunasj: fyi - just wanted to review https://issues.jboss.org/browse/RFPL-588 - see where we stand, etc...

    [11:07pm] jbossbot: jira [RFPL-588] RichFaces 4.0 Documentation [Open, Major, Sean Rogers] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/RFPL-588

    [11:07pm] balunasj: serogers: sure np

    [11:08pm] ilya_shaikovsky: pinged Andrey.. he just lost in jira because its RFPL and will do soon

    [11:09pm] balunasj: ilya_shaikovsky: ok

    [11:09pm] serogers: Mostly for the component guide I need to do the tree components, then there's a few here and there

    [11:10pm] serogers: So probably almost done. Then I need to do the skinning reference stuff

    [11:10pm] balunasj: serogers: ok - and push will likely need a fairly big effort

    [11:10pm] balunasj: ilya_shaikovsky: agree ^

    [11:14pm] serogers: I think the Developer Guide and Migration Guide are pretty good, but need reviews

    [11:14pm] serogers: and I know we discussed moving the Migration Guide to the wiki

    [11:14pm] balunasj: serogers: Dev guide for sure we need a good review.

    [11:15pm] balunasj: serogers: yup - the migration guide will likely just be in wiki

    [11:15pm] ilya_shaikovsky: yup when Nick will return I will discuss some questionable points and will work on a blog for push and create points for you in the same time

    [11:15pm] balunasj: ilya_shaikovsky: perfect!

    [11:16pm] serogers: Sounds good

    [11:16pm] balunasj: serogers: so for you big items remaining are

    [11:16pm] balunasj: component guide ( push, tree, skinning, minor misc )

    [11:16pm] balunasj:   - plus feedback

    [11:16pm] balunasj: dev guide - mostly just feedback

    [11:16pm] balunasj: migration

    [11:16pm] balunasj:  - assist with wiki move & updates

    [11:17pm] balunasj: sound about right?

    [11:17pm] balunasj: We also should figure out the generated doc stuff - but just always drops in priority

    [11:17pm] serogers: Yep, if we are not going to include the CDK guide at this stage

    [11:18pm] balunasj: The CDK guide is also secondary, but wish we could get it in

    [11:18pm] balunasj: if time

    [11:19pm] balunasj: serogers: the problem there - is I just don't see how we'll get the time

    [11:20pm] serogers: Not sure. I haven't looked too much at the CDK guide. Will the technical details have changed much since 3.3.X?

    [11:20pm] ilya_shaikovsky: unfortunatelly yes..

    [11:21pm] balunasj: basic concepts are the same, but major changes in how things work

    [11:21pm] serogers: Oh, OK. Otherwise I could just clean up the existing one.

    [11:21pm] ilya_shaikovsky: templating and configs and resource configs - three features used at most in guide changed completelly

    [11:21pm] balunasj: nope not for this

    [11:21pm] balunasj: plus 4.0 is more about component lib, than CDK

    [11:22pm] balunasj: for future releases we can think about showcasing the CDK, but for not mostly internal

    [11:22pm] serogers: OK

    [11:22pm] OndejZizka left the chat room. (Quit: Leaving.)

    [11:22pm] balunasj: serogers: are there any concerns or issues you would like to discuss?

    [11:23pm] balunasj: ilya_shaikovsky: We'll have to talk about how to split up tasks for review, but not sure atm

    [11:23pm] serogers: Can you just confirm for me the planning for the next few release dates?

    [11:24pm] balunasj: serogers: sure one sec

    [11:25pm] balunasj: http://community.jboss.org/wiki/RichFaces40ReleaseCenter has the latest info for current release

    [11:26pm] serogers: Great, thanks

    [11:27pm] serogers: So no specifics yet for CR2 and Final

    [11:27pm] balunasj: serogers: we can discuss offline

    [11:28pm] serogers: OK

    [11:28pm] OndejZizka joined the chat room.

    [11:28pm] • balunasj reviewing if there is anything else for now

    [11:29pm] balunasj: serogers: ilya_shaikovsky : anything else for now?

    [11:29pm] serogers: Nothing else from me

    [11:30pm] ilya_shaikovsky: seem no from me too

    [11:30pm] balunasj: serogers: btw - next week Ilya and I are going to focus on migration tasks and wiki - just a heads up

    [11:30pm] balunasj: ok then - thanks

    [11:31pm] serogers: OK, thanks