11 Replies Latest reply on Dec 21, 2007 3:45 AM by ericjava

    Seam in Real World: Made with Seam

      Hi Seam guys,

      Are you interested to see the power and action of Seam framework in real world…..

      Use GOOGLE advanced search (allinurl or inurl operators) to check websites that are developed with Seam.

      Tip 1:

      Use index tag to search

      Example:

      inurl:index.seam

      Tip 2:

      Use home tag to search

      Example:

      inurl:home.seam

      You could also try some other default tags like debug, page, view etc.,

      See here:



      http://seamexpress.wordpress.com/2007/12/02/jboss-seam-in-real-world-made-with-seam/

        • 1. Re: Seam in Real World: Made with Seam
          shane.bryzak

          Cool my blog comes up second in the list when you search for inurl:home.seam :)

          • 2. Re: Seam in Real World: Made with Seam
            mortena

            But the results are not that good:

            25 for index.seam

            32 for home.seam

            That is some VERY LOW numbers. Please explain why I should choose a framework with that few live running sites?

            • 3. Re: Seam in Real World: Made with Seam
              damianharvey

              Classic. There's even a p0rn site running Seam. Pass that onto your sales guys for sure.

              • 4. Re: Seam in Real World: Made with Seam

                Hi,
                Thanks for your interest.

                You should know that SEAM is a enterprise application framework, that means about 60-70% applications are mission critical and therefore only few sites are available online without any restrictions. On the other side lot of corporate giants have applications developed with Seam which are only allowed for restricted users inside their network.
                Moreover Seam is just growing, i think about 50% applications are incubation/development stage, so we have wait for couple of months. Currently Seam become very popular but applications using Seam would take a little while. Also big companies are slowly switching over from JDK/JRE 1.3/1.4 to 1.5 which is a big move (takes atleast a year) for them, that means path-free to use Seam in their environment.

                Seam team should share their comments on this issue (Real world Seam applications).

                Regards,
                http://seamexpress.wordpress.com/

                • 5. Re: Seam in Real World: Made with Seam
                  gavin.king

                  Guys don't get too upset. User's can change the extension used in URL mappings to *anything they like*. And I know that plenty of folks here use other URL mappings than *.seam.

                  • 6. Re: Seam in Real World: Made with Seam

                    I use *.xhtml, my applications are not listed in Google, and are restricted.

                    • 7. Re: Seam in Real World: Made with Seam
                      holmes.j

                      And I still haven't changed from .faces.

                      Just recently incorporated Seam - and it's awesome by the way.

                      -Jason

                      • 8. Re: Seam in Real World: Made with Seam
                        monkeyden

                         

                        "gavin.king@jboss.com" wrote:
                        Guys don't get too upset. User's can change the extension used in URL mappings to *anything they like*. And I know that plenty of folks here use other URL mappings than *.seam.


                        No doubt, I don't see why you wouldn't change it. We deployed a very high profile real estate website (nearly 1M hits/day) using Seam and we used a alternate suffix.

                        • 9. Re: Seam in Real World: Made with Seam
                          mortena

                          I just read: http://www.theserverside.com/news/thread.tss?thread_id=45998

                          Where 37signals are mentioned and I came to think of a fundamental difference between the two companies:

                          - 37signals use the tool they develop (ruby on rails)
                          - JBoss develop a tool for others to use (seam)

                          Which kind of compares to:
                          - A blacksmith that happens to sell hammers (and optimizing the hammer design while using and testing it)
                          - A blacksmith that happens to sell a kind of hammer he doesn't use himself.

                          This just gives the wrong impression (and marketing material) for the last blacksmith.

                          And came to think:

                          - Why are we using this "c...." forum when we have a tool like seam at our hands?
                          - Why are JBoss not building real world applications and making som great marketing material to show off?

                          It's time for real world examples.

                          • 10. Re: Seam in Real World: Made with Seam
                            pmuir

                             

                            "mortena" wrote:
                            - Why are we using this "c...." forum when we have a tool like seam at our hands?
                            - Why are JBoss not building real world applications and making som great marketing material to show off?


                            Take a look at
                            http://in.relation.to
                            and
                            http://alpha.seamframework.org:9999 (this last one is still under heavy development as the address suggests) for the new Seam infrastructure (of course built using the Seam stack).

                            Also, I know our consulting teams are out there building, and helping to build, real applications using Seam. However most companies aren't willing to discuss this in public.

                            • 11. Re: Seam in Real World: Made with Seam

                              Made with Seam: http://gamerdental.com/ . It's not up yet but it is based purely on JBoss Seam. Why would a dentist need Seam? We're going to have a patient login area, with all kinds of functionality, made easy with Seam. Seam's role-based security will be a help on that. And in the public areas, the ability to use Richfaces makes it much easier to have a modern looking interface, without needing to write Javascript.