balunasj
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Hi everyone - we'll get started in a few minutes
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11:01am
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balunasj
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Alright everyone lets get started.
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11:01am
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balunasj
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The agenda is here http://www.jboss.org/community/wiki/RichFacesTeamMeetingInformation
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11:01am
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balunasj
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opps - here  - http://www.jboss.org/community/docs/DOC-13483
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11:02am
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balunasj
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First I just wanted to let you know the logo's have been sent to the designer for color
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11:02am
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balunasj
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variants and I'll post them to RF-6683
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11:03am
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balunasj
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I would like to focus on Jira review so lets move on the 3.3.1 status
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11:03am
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balunasj
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t_kuprevich: have you been able to update the test report for BETA3
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11:03am
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balunasj
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?
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11:03am
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t_kuprevich
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yes, somethink like an hour ago
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11:04am
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balunasj
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ok good
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11:04am
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t_kuprevich
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but there are two more major bugs on editor
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11:04am
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t_kuprevich
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https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/RF-6725
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11:04am
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t_kuprevich
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https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/RF-6726
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11:04am
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balunasj
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looking
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11:05am
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nbelaevski
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are these issues regression or just new ones?
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11:05am
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balunasj
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you beat me to it
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11:06am
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ilya_shaikovsky
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hi all!
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11:06am
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ilya_shaikovsky
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sorry I'm late
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balunasj
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ilya_shaikovsky: np
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11:06am
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balunasj
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It sounds like both of these may be related to seam-text format.
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11:07am
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balunasj
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There is a way to get more information about the error - it would be good to tell the user what is wrong.
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11:07am
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balunasj
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Take a look at the seam forums for an example
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11:08am
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balunasj
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also &radic
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11:08am
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balunasj
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needs to be converted to \&radic
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11:08am
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balunasj
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I'll take a quick look on in.relation.to formatting
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11:08am
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t_kuprevich
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\&radic - is it a workaround or we used it incorrectly
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11:09am
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t_kuprevich
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&
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t_kuprevich
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?
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balunasj
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\&radic produces "&radic"
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11:10am
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balunasj
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not the special character
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11:10am
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balunasj
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In either case this might be an issue with seam-text
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11:10am
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balunasj
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and should be looked into
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11:11am
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t_kuprevich
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ok, we'll look into it
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11:11am
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balunasj
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pmuir: you might know off the top of you head
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11:11am
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balunasj
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to display &radic (special character) in seam text
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11:11am
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balunasj
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\&radic does not do it
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11:12am
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balunasj
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Back to nbelaevski ? are these regressions?
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11:12am
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t_kuprevich
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ok
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11:12am
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t_kuprevich
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I think these are just new ones
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11:13am
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balunasj
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ok
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11:13am
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balunasj
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t_kuprevich: any other blockers, or issues you want to bring up
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11:13am
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t_kuprevich
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I'm not sure for now, sdubovsky is out of the room now, he knows it better
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11:13am
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balunasj
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ok
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11:14am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: how about you, things looking ok for BETA4?
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11:14am
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t_kuprevich
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just this one https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/RF-6714
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11:14am
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t_kuprevich
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it is alredy in the report
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11:14am
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t_kuprevich
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and nothing new critical
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11:14am
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balunasj
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ok - I'll bring this up in the jira review I have some info on it.
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11:14am
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nbelaevski
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we have to fix RF-6714 before BETA4
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11:14am
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balunasj
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^^^ RF-6714
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11:14am
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nbelaevski
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or ask Piotr to look at it
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11:15am
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balunasj
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I sent both of the Poitr's emails
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11:15am
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pmuir
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balunasj: no idea
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11:15am
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balunasj
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to see if they could make the meeting
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11:15am
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balunasj
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and asked them about the issues assigned
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11:15am
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balunasj
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I will engage them regarding their issues.
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11:16am
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alexsmirnov
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balunasj: I need about 1-2 days to make layout themes skinnable. It would be better to release BETA4 with ready to use layout components.
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11:16am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: I agree that 6714 needs to be fixed.
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11:17am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: so you would like to push off BETA4 to when?  Monday?
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11:17am
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ilya_shaikovsky
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yes to many customers interested in 6714 fix
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11:17am
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alexsmirnov
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Wednesday or Thursday from my view.
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: of next week?
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alexsmirnov
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This week, I believe.
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balunasj
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ok that is fine it is planned for Thursday anyway
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nbelaevski
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two more issues for beta4: https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/RF-6467
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11:19am
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nbelaevski
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https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/RF-6639
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: were you able to create a jira for the memory issues that was reported?  any luck in finding them?
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11:19am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: looking...
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11:20am
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nbelaevski
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yes, we've resolved one recently
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rruss
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cool
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: excellent!
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11:21am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: I also saw RF-5226 was closed
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nbelaevski
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yes
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nbelaevski
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we've talked about this yesterday
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: yup
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11:22am
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nbelaevski
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btw, here are both issues for memory leaks:
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11:22am
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nbelaevski
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https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/RF-6672
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11:22am
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nbelaevski
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https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/RF-6673
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nbelaevski
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both resolved
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: great
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11:23am
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nbelaevski
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the main problem I see for now is lack of community interest to BETAs
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11:23am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: are the 2 issues above (6467, 6639) risks for BETA4?
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11:23am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: I agree and I think that the current release model is part of the problem.
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11:24am
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nbelaevski
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no risk
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11:24am
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ilya_shaikovsky
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Yes this release differs from all other previous..
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balunasj
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releasing betas every week is to fast
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11:24am
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balunasj
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releases need time to "bake" in the community.
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11:25am
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balunasj
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We'll look into changing this for 4.0
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nbelaevski
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what interval used for Seam releases?
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pmuir
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nbelaevski: we normally leave a minium of 3 weeks between CRs, perhaps a month - 6 weeks from a beta to a CR
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: typically Seam have a beta - month - CR1 - 2 weeks - if needed CR2 - then GA.
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balunasj
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pmuir: what pete said
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nbelaevski
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got it, thanks
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11:26am
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pmuir
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we would only do betas for a minor or major release as, not for micro...
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nbelaevski
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got that
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11:27am
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balunasj
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This is the general type of model I want to work for in 4.0
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11:27am
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balunasj
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We'll have an ALPHA for that though
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11:27am
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balunasj
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lets get back to the agenda so we can take a look at jira
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11:28am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: you said dev is all set for BETA4
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11:28am
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balunasj
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smukhina1: how about docs any major issues?  I know someone new just started, but beyond that?
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alexsmirnov
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Agree with such releases schedule. Out of topic: Peter, does it make sense to target RichFaces 4.0 for WebBeans instead of Seam ?
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: can hold off on that discuss for right now - I think it is a topic
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smukhina1
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Sorokin is ill, so layout components are described now on 90%, when he will be ok, he continue describing it
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: but I want to get to the jiras - lets hold off
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alexsmirnov
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ok
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: until the meeting next week.
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smukhina1
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demo application tutorial will be finished this week
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: thanks
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11:31am
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balunasj
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smukhina1: great - please let us know when and I'll review
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smukhina1
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ok
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balunasj
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smukhina1: thanks.
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balunasj
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so the main item I wanted to discuss is jira
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11:32am
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balunasj
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As I said earlier I contacted both of the poitr
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balunasj
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er - piotr's
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balunasj
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regarding the issues assigned to them.
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11:32am
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balunasj
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and invited them to join our meeting
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11:33am
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balunasj
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http://tinyurl.com/d4zn5a
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balunasj
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is the two critical issues assigned to Piotr Kawiak
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: ilya_shaikovsky what are your thoughts on 6151?
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11:34am
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balunasj
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we already know that 6714 needs to get fixed.
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11:34am
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ilya_shaikovsky
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I think we could fix this ourselves.. It isn't critical from design point of the guys
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11:35am
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balunasj
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6151 looks pretty straight forward
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11:35am
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balunasj
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ilya_shaikovsky: ok good
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11:35am
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nbelaevski
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I think that we can ask Piotr to look at it
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11:35am
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balunasj
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lets give piotr a day to get back to me, then we'll adjust as needed.
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11:35am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: yup - I have
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11:35am
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nbelaevski
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but if he can't, we'll do it ourselves
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: exactly
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11:36am
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nbelaevski
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BTW, Jay, just to clarify
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11:36am
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nbelaevski
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nbelaevski: you said dev is all set for BETA4
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11:36am
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nbelaevski
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not sure I get you right
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11:36am
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nbelaevski
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can you please clarify?
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: sure you said there is no risk for the BETA4 above - right?
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nbelaevski
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yes
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: I did not mean to imply that you are done and ready to build it.
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: sorry about that.
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nbelaevski
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no problem
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11:38am
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balunasj
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Here is the link for the current critical issues http://tinyurl.com/d5n9e9
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11:38am
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balunasj
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RF-4639 - being a selenium test should not be critical
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11:39am
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nbelaevski
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agree
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11:39am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: can you explain RF-6025 a little bit more?
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11:40am
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nbelaevski
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we've manually added google counter to currently deployed livedemo (3.3.0.GA). have to add this code to trunk so that new richfaces-demo builds will contain counter code from the beginning
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11:41am
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nbelaevski
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add some JS that will count only livedemo pages
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11:41am
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balunasj
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the google analytics info, or something else?
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11:41am
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balunasj
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ok
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11:41am
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nbelaevski
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yes, google analytics
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11:42am
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balunasj
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that seems like a specific deployment issue for the live demo
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11:43am
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nbelaevski
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we can add code into trunk and make it count only livedemo.exadel.com pages
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11:43am
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nbelaevski
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and do not prepare a special demo
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11:43am
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balunasj
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What implications would that have for someone else who builds the demo
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11:44am
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balunasj
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can we make this change more generic and not specific to livedemo?
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11:45am
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nbelaevski
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we can build a special version of .war file containing counter... but that's the thing we are trying to avoid
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11:45am
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nbelaevski
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someone else building the demo would run it without counter
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11:46am
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nbelaevski
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if we move demo to another name, then we'll have to update the code
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11:46am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: lets talk more offline, but perhaps there is a way to set the "livedemo.exadel.com" in a property that defaults to empty, so that other users can set different settings.
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11:47am
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balunasj
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Then when you build for the live demo you set the property
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11:47am
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balunasj
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lets talk offline
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11:47am
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nbelaevski
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ok
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11:48am
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balunasj
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RF-6686
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11:48am
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nbelaevski
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needs fixing fro BETA4
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11:48am
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balunasj
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ok
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11:48am
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balunasj
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btw - breaking up the release process like seam - allows for setting fixes for specific BETAs/CRs etc...
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11:49am
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balunasj
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RF-6119
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11:49am
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balunasj
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is this a bug found with the selenium tests, or a problem with the tests
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11:49am
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nbelaevski
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I'd like that much
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11:49am
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balunasj
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it is unclear to me.
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11:49am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: me too
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11:50am
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nbelaevski
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that's an issue with selenium tests and component. there's a minor defect that prevents tests from successful passing
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11:51am
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nbelaevski
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nobody from community reported this defect, so I've decided to postpone fix for the future to keep code stable
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11:51am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: are your or Anton going to split it into the different issues first?
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11:52am
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nbelaevski
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me. Anton is doing RW demo
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11:52am
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balunasj
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ok - I only ask because it is assigned to Anton at the moment.
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11:52am
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balunasj
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so that cover the critical issues
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11:53am
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balunasj
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some need fixing and other can be moved
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11:53am
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balunasj
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We are obviously not going to have time to go through many more
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11:54am
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balunasj
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so I'll ask that everyone review and comment in the jira's for items that either should be shifted, or need to upgraded to critical, blocker
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11:54am
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balunasj
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etc...
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11:54am
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balunasj
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I will also be looking into this.
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11:54am
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nbelaevski
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ok, we'll do
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11:54am
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nbelaevski
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I've started the process already
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11:55am
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balunasj
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There are currently 6 optional and 1 trivial issues - they should either be shifted or upgraded to a higher priority.
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11:55am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: great - I've seen it and appreciate it
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11:55am
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nbelaevski
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ok
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11:56am
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nbelaevski
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also I'm going to deal with yet unscheduled ones
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11:56am
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nbelaevski
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simple ones will go to BETA4 I think
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balunasj
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unscheduled, or "no component"?
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nbelaevski
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unscheduled
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11:57am
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nbelaevski
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that are new issues posted
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11:57am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: sounds good
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11:57am
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nbelaevski
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and not yet processed
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11:57am
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balunasj
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and I'll keep an eye on it as well.
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11:57am
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nbelaevski
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good
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11:57am
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ilya_shaikovsky
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Jay I will also add some minor issues for new livedemo pages implementation to 3.3.1 but it will not be a big deal
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11:57am
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balunasj
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I will be creating some builds for 4.0 ALPHA
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11:57am
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balunasj
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3.3.2 BETA1
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11:58am
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balunasj
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etc...
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11:58am
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balunasj
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so we can shift them as needed
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11:58am
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balunasj
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ilya_shaikovsky: ok thanks
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: will you be able to update the 4.0/JSF 2.0 page by the end of the week?
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balunasj
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I'll be posting other 4.0 info and the meeting time later this week as well.
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12:03pm
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: ping
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12:04pm
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balunasj
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ok guys - I'll follow up with Alex offline - thanks for the coming, and we'll talk later.
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12:05pm
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balunasj
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I'll write up the minutes and post them to the wiki
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12:05pm
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balunasj
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if you have not yet - please subscribe to the meeting information page so you'll be notified when we post agendas and minutes.
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12:07pm
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alexsmirnov
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I'll update article on Wensday or Thurday.
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12:07pm
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: great - thanks
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12:07pm
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balunasj
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talk to you all later - thanks
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12:07pm
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ilya_shaikovsky
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thanks Jay
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12:07pm
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You are now known as balunasj_lunch.
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12:09pm
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alexsmirnov
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I have one thing to discuss. I need a names for Lex's themes. I use 'theme1' and 'theme2' now, but it is not informative.
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balunasj_lunch
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alexsmirnov: hehe - good point
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12:11pm
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balunasj_lunch
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I'll think about ti
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balunasj_lunch
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it
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alexsmirnov
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ok. I'll put example on livedemo.exadel.com today, there you can see all themes in action.