balunasj
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Agenda posted in channel topic
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10:15am
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balunasj
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http://tinyurl.com/nmn2rw
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10:15am
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balunasj
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I included all the misc topics that we talked about during the week
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10:15am
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abelevich|away is now known as abelevich.
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10:15am
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abelevich
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hi guys !
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10:15am
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balunasj
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we may not get to it because I have another meeting at 11:00
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10:16am
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balunasj
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abelevich: Hi Anton
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10:16am
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Marauder
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Hi All!
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10:16am
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balunasj
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So lets get started
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10:16am
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balunasj
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Marauder: HI Ilya
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10:17am
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Marauder is now known as ilya_shaikovsky.
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10:17am
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balunasj
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So the build move to svn - are we all set?
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10:18am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: abelevich : eveything out of jsf2.0 and rf4_build branch?
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10:19am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: nick too I know you were working in jsf 2.0 branch for the resources.
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10:20am
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nbelaevski
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so, I've moved framework/*
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10:20am
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alexsmirnov
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jsf-test is not moved yet. we discussed the right place for test project yesterday.
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10:20am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: ok good
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10:20am
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nbelaevski
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there are also examples and components, however I haven't touched them yet
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10:20am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: in jsf2.0?
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10:20am
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balunasj
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branch
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10:20am
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nbelaevski
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yes
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10:20am
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alexsmirnov
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CDK build is not fixed.
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10:21am
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nbelaevski
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they are:
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10:21am
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nbelaevski
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examples/repeater
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10:21am
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nbelaevski
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ui/core
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10:21am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: ok - how long do you think is needed to fix? I know you are also working on portal bridge right?
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10:22am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: Were these just not part of the initial move that we talked about, or did something come up?
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10:22am
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: if Alex is ok to move (has committed it), then I'll do the migration
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10:23am
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alexsmirnov
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Right. Portal bridge is going to alpha release on Friday, hence I worked with that project only.
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10:23am
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: or we can move them in "lazy" mode, because these projects are not necessary to continue framework development
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10:23am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: ok - so from your perspective what is left in the jsf2.0 branch that needs to be moved?
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10:23am
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alexsmirnov
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It seems that I will take today and at least half of Friday for that too.
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10:24am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: I would prefer to get jsf2.0 branch code migrated to the new build system and move jsf2.0 to sandbox.
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10:24am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: I want to avoid having bits and pieces in various places
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10:25am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: for portal bridge work, or jsf2.0 branch wrap up?
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10:25am
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alexsmirnov
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CDK has no version-matrix dependencies in hierarchy. Is it correct or just forgotten parent tag ?
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10:25am
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nbelaevski
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alexsmirnov: is it ok to move ui/* and examples/*?
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10:25am
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alexsmirnov
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jay: for portal bridge
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10:26am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: ok
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10:27am
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alexsmirnov
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nbelaevski: I thing it is ok. But we should review 'examples' - there are lot of obsolette projects.
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10:27am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: CDK should be using frameworks version-matrix
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10:27am
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nbelaevski
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alexsmirnov: ok, thanks
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10:28am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: there is only one project right now in jsf2.0/examples = "repeater"
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10:28am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: That is the only thing that would be moved now - right?
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10:29am
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alexsmirnov
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balunasj: Do you mean JSF 2.0 or 3.3 branch ? I did not moved examples to JSF 2.0 at all.
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10:29am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: "we should review 'examples' - there are lot of obsolette projects." - we are just talking about jsf2.0 branch now
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10:30am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: I wanted to make sure we understood each other
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10:30am
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balunasj
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Migration from 3.3.X to 4.0 is going to be more controlled and reviewed.
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10:31am
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alexsmirnov
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Ok. T thought you asked about existing RichFaces 3.x examples.
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10:31am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: nope - we're not ready for that yet
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10:32am
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balunasj
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My goal is to make sure we are done using rf4_build and jsf2.0 for 4.0 development
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10:32am
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balunasj
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Just to make sure based on commits I've seen rf4_build is empty and everything is in root - good!
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10:33am
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balunasj
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jsf 2.0 branch still have some bits to move
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10:33am
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balunasj
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1) example
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10:33am
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balunasj
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2) ui/core
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10:33am
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: ok, I'll move these bits today
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10:33am
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nbelaevski
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except CDK
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10:33am
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balunasj
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3)  jsf-test
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10:33am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: nbelaevski anything else?
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10:33am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: thanks
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10:33am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: CDK is already moved to new build system - right?
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10:34am
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alexsmirnov
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right
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10:34am
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nbelaevski
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there's tests project
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10:34am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: is "tests" where jsf-test is now?
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10:34am
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: 3) jsf-test has been already moved
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10:34am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: ok good
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10:36am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: nbelaevski : what functionality is in the "tests" project then - is this what we were discussing yesterday with a consolidated test stuff?
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10:37am
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alexsmirnov
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nbelaevski: we've discussed about test project with pete and jay yesterday. We think RichFaces test base and Seam mocks should be moved to separate project in the http://anonsvn.jboss.org/repos/test-utils/
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10:38am
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nbelaevski
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ok, that's good
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10:38am
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nbelaevski
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who will do the move?
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10:38am
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nbelaevski
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is it setup as Hudson build?
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10:39am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov and I both have commit rights to the new repo - although I think will be handling most of the migration.
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10:39am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: what part set up in hudson build?
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10:39am
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nbelaevski
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test-utils
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10:40am
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bungrudi
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is this the right place to ask about richfaces?
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10:40am
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bungrudi
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or is this a developer/committers channel?
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10:40am
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balunasj
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bungrudi: sure is, we are having a design meeting for another 20 min
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10:41am
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balunasj
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bungrudi: we would be happy to have your question - or if you wanted to post of the user forum
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10:41am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: I'll check , but right now I think test-utiles is just a couple of test projects.
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10:42am
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: I'm asking because I'm close to start with unit tests (for resources and we need to refactor existing ones)
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10:43am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: http://hudson.qa.jboss.com/hudson/job/jboss-test-harness-nightly/
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10:43am
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balunasj
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this is internal
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10:43am
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balunasj
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not sure if it is being posted publicly yet
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10:43am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: public: https://hudson.jboss.org/hudson/job/jboss-test-harness-nightly/
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10:44am
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alexsmirnov
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nbelaevski: I think it is safe to start writing tests using existing jsf-test and seam mocks. we always can change dependencies if these projects will be moved.
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10:44am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: true
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10:44am
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nbelaevski
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ok, thanks guys! pleaes let me know whem transition occur, so I'll update POMs
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10:44am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: np
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10:45am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: This still leaves the question - what is needed to finish up with jsf2.0 branch - can we move it to sandbox?
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10:45am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: Nick is going to move the dirs we talked about earlier
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10:46am
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balunasj
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but that would leave on "tests" - correct?
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10:46am
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: yes
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10:46am
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alexsmirnov
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correct.
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10:47am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: do you have thing checked out for jsf2.0 branch? can we move it to sandbox?
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10:48am
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alexsmirnov
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Everything else ( components and samples ) will be moved from 3.3 with code review. I did not see anything to move from JSF 2.0 branch.
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10:49am
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bungrudi
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urm.. ill try asking here. i have a <rich:tabPanel/> which i want to add some tabs programmatically. can i construct these dynamic tabs and their component tree from xml files, just like when creating a page (instead of building it with java) ?
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10:49am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: correct, but the move from 3.3 to 4.0 is not going to happen right now - we need to finish up core functionality and base CDK work.  Basically I want to release an ALPHA (need to discuss soon) before we start migrating lots of stuff.
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10:50am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: so once nbelaevski copies the dirs from jsf2.0 to new build system we can move jsf2.0 branch to sandbox.
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10:50am
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balunasj
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any more work can continue there
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10:51am
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: jsf2.0 will be empty after that
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10:51am
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: actually I've used move
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10:51am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: I saw that with rf4_build too - I don't think we need to do that moving forward - although using move keeps history right?
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10:52am
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nbelaevski
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yes, history is there
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10:52am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: So rf4_build can be removed
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10:52am
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: yes
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10:53am
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: i'll take this
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10:53am
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balunasj
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for jsf2.0 tests will still be there for now though and should stay there - but you can mv jsf2.0 --> sandbox
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10:53am
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balunasj
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once you mv the other bits.
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10:53am
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balunasj
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one problem with partial moves is that end up with branches that basically incomplete and inoperable because parts are not there.
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10:54am
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balunasj
 
^^ probably a problem for the future
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10:55am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: I don't think we are going to have time to discuss a new repo, or parent directory for the new 4.0 svn root items
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10:55am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: I'm on the fence on this - I see reasons on both sides
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10:56am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: why don't you write up a forum post in "design of" and we can debate there.
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10:56am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: If we are going to make a change we would need to do it soon
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10:57am
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balunasj
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all: we started a little late, and only got through the build system
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10:57am
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tkuprevich joined the chat room.
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10:57am
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tkuprevich
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Hi all
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10:57am
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balunasj
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I'll write up the minutes, and post the transcript then
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10:57am
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balunasj
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tkuprevich: Hi
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10:57am
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nbelaevski
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tkuprevich: hi
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10:58am
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: you mean post to describe new layout, right?
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10:58am
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balunasj
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We need to discuss our plan for what "ALPHA" is for 4.0 and timing.
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10:59am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: I was talking about your idea of putting the new layout in a different repo - or more likely a different base dir that svn root
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10:59am
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: ok, got that
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11:00am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: cool
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11:00am
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balunasj
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Time for my other meeting - thanks guys - we're making progress
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11:00am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: let me know how the PBR work is going and when you think you'll finish up
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11:02am
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alexsmirnov
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I've finished JSR-301 portlet 2.0 api and going to done implementation today. We will have only finish test/examples tomorrow and mark ALPHA1 release to QA.
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11:02am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: nice - let me know if that changes