balunasj
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The agenda is posted in the channel topic
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11:02am
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balunasj
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So lets get started - I think everyone is here
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11:02am
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abelevich
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hi all
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11:03am
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balunasj
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We ran into a hiccup with with the new project site - we need to move the documentation to the doc.jboss.org site before we go live.
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11:03am
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balunasj
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smukhina1 and balunasj have been discussing how to do that and she is going to package it up
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11:04am
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balunasj
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then I'll be able to get the jboss.org team to upload
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11:04am
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balunasj
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once it is in place we'll have to update as many of the doc links as we can to the new location.
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11:05am
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smukhina1
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right - I'm just writing you the answer to your last email
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11:05am
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balunasj
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The project site is looking pretty good, and Ilya has some corrections to make then we'll be ready.
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11:05am
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balunasj
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smukhina1: ok thanks
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11:05am
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ilya_shaikovsky
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just sent you letter about the corrections
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11:05am
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ilya_shaikovsky
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think tommorow most of them will be applied
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11:06am
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balunasj
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if we can get the docs migrated, and the site updated this week then I can work with jboss.org to get everything live
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11:06am
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balunasj
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ilya_shaikovsky: excellent - enough time to review again before going live.
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11:07am
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balunasj
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once the site is live I'll announce in the usual places
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11:07am
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balunasj
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anything else to discuss in the community side of things?
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11:08am
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ilya_shaikovsky
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b.t.w
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11:08am
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ilya_shaikovsky
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just remember
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ilya_shaikovsky
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we wanted to talk about place to announce  JSF 2 compatibility at new site
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11:08am
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ilya_shaikovsky
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not sure that you marked this point in review letter
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balunasj
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ok lets discuss that later today, but this type of thing is probably best for the wiki
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ilya_shaikovsky
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ok
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balunasj
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I want the project site to be as "static" as possible so we don't need to update it all the time.
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amarkhel
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Hello all
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balunasj
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amarkhel: hello
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11:11am
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balunasj
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ok so lets move on to 3.3.2.CR1
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11:12am
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balunasj
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The code freeze is this friday, and we wanted to get a first build to QE on Monday.
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11:13am
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balunasj
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So if there some items that need finishing we can use the week end - although hopefully we'll be all set.
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11:14am
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balunasj
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we currently have 64 jira's open
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11:14am
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balunasj
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1 blocker, 4 critical, 34 major, 20 minor, and 1 optional.
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11:15am
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balunasj
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there are also 21 doc jira's in that #.
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smukhina1
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I will review doc jira on Monday and move if necessary some issues to the next release
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11:15am
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balunasj
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smukhina1: before tagging for the QE build?
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11:16am
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smukhina1
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but we can continue updating docs when qa is verifying the buildd, right?
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11:17am
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balunasj
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smukhina1: True - right up to tagging for the release.
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11:18am
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smukhina1
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ok, then I update the jira before the tagging
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balunasj
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smukhina1: this is assuming you are verifying that the docs are building correctly
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11:19am
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balunasj
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smukhina1: I do not want QE to verify the docs when they may be changing
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smukhina1
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yes
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balunasj
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smukhina1: thanks
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: lets talk about dev
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: yes
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prabhat
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balunasj: not to hijack the conversation but i would also like photo album tests to be 100% passing. Two failures still remain
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11:20am
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balunasj
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prabhat: no problem.  Lets discuss as part of dev talk
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nbelaevski
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prabhat: what are these failures caused by?
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nbelaevski
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bug in test?..
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prabhat
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nbelaevski: that's what it seemed like when we discussed first: http://hudson.qa.jboss.com/hudson/view/RichFaces/job/richfaces-photoalbum-tests/27/testReport/
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balunasj
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prabhat: are these the ones konstantin was going to review?
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11:21am
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prabhat
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nbelaevski: i think it was amarkhel  who was going to look into it. but not sure.
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11:21am
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prabhat
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balunasj: it could have been konstantin
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nbelaevski
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prabhat: balunasj: it was Alex Kolonitsky
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: we were both wrong
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11:22am
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nbelaevski
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i'm starting VPN and checking...
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prabhat
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balunasj: nbelaevski i have benefit of doubt. I did not join F2F meeting
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nbelaevski
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btw, why not make this public?
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prabhat
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nbelaevski: no reason not to make public..i wanted to tests to pass before I publish
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nbelaevski
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i see
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balunasj
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prabhat: we also need a branch version on the build name
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prabhat
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nbelaevski: if you remember, i fixed some failing tests but these two were not straightforward to follow and I thought it will be better use of time if person who wrote the test looked at it
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nbelaevski
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ok, from the first sight this looks like tests issues
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nbelaevski
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i'm creating RFPL to fix them
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nbelaevski
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prabhat: that's true
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: you or Alex can look into the details offline - I think it is a valid concern for code freeze through.
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balunasj
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in general all of the test suites should be passing 100% before we hand off to QE
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: agree
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nbelaevski
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https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/RFPL-49
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: thanks
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nbelaevski
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let's get back to development status?
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balunasj
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prabhat: thanks for bringing it up.
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: please go ahead
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: +1
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nbelaevski
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so, Pavel is now testing RF-7290 (TinyMCE upgrade) and fixing bugs. it's expected to be completed on Friday by code freeze
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: excellent - does he feel good about the upgrade - if it a risky update for QE to focus on?
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11:28am
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: yes. QE should focus on this
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11:29am
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nbelaevski
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also Pavel is going to be on vacation since 14 Aug
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: did you have a chance to talk about RF-7270 (Investigate IE6 peekaboo bug specifically with the SImpleTogglePanel)?
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: I did email the customer r. this issue, but have not heard back yet - I will be checking with them this week.
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nbelaevski
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can we lower priority?
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: on second
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: one second
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nbelaevski
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ok
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11:32am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: based on your email this can be fixed by the user - correct
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11:33am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: refresh my memory - what is the reason we can't fix this in our component as well?
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nbelaevski
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that bug appears only with particular component customization and de've decided not to fix this due to possible side effects, like z-index issues
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: so out of the box with not customization the component works fine?
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11:35am
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nbelaevski
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yes, i couldn't reproduce the issue just out of the box
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: if we fix in the component for this customer case it could cause other side-effects
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11:35am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: the workaround is known and can be handled by users.
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11:36am
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balunasj
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ilya_shaikovsky: I think this is a great item for the FAQ
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11:36am
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ilya_shaikovsky
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yup..
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: yes. there are two possible workarounds: usage of "zoom:1" and "position: relative"
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: I think we can close the bug as won't fix - but detail what we just discussed.  out-of-the box it works
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11:36am
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nbelaevski
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for some cases "zoom: 1" is undesirable, for another "position: relative"
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: Andrei is checking RF for similar components
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balunasj
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discuss what customization can cause the problem
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nbelaevski
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amarkhel: have you found some?...
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: good
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: example broking the component is attached
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nbelaevski
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sorry, *breaking
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: yup I see those comments, but I think a clear explanation of what we just discussed is needed.
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: in other words the first comment starts with "after refresh..."
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amarkhel
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all components out-of-the box work fine
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: it is not clear to someone who is not looking at the details, but may have found the bug.
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: i wish i could delete this comment. it belongs to the picture
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amarkhel
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but some components with customization may cause similar problem
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balunasj
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amarkhel: also good info for the bug, so someone does not create a new one.
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11:41am
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: actually, i can
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11:41am
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balunasj
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amarkhel: ilya_shaikovsky : also for the faq
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11:41am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: I can delete the comment as well
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amarkhel
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i agree
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11:41am
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: i've found that i can do it and did
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11:42am
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nbelaevski
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ok, this will be described more
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11:42am
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nbelaevski
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RF-7583extendedDataTable: menu not works at all at snapshot richfaces-demo sample - Konstantin will fix it by Friday
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11:42am
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balunasj
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ilya_shaikovsky: can you create a RFPL for wiki update.
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11:43am
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ilya_shaikovsky
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balunasj, ok.. I'll relate to the original one
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11:43am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: ok good
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11:43am
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nbelaevski
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RF-7594PhotoAlbum: links do not work - there Ilya's help is necessary to attach links to the content
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11:43am
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nbelaevski
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the application doesn't look good with links non-working
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11:44am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: agreed - ilya_shaikovsky will you have time this week to look - site can take lower priority.
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11:44am
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nbelaevski
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RF-7612RichFaces 3.3.x build: can't build from root folder - easy to fix, Anton will do it
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: ok good - lets get the blocker and criticals resolved before we work on anymore majors/minors etc...
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alexsmirnov
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RF-7612 - I tried to build whole project from scratch today, It done without errors.
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nbelaevski
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alexsmirnov: Ilya has cleared his local repo today
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balunasj
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I'll kick off a build as well - but I think it is repo issue
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: alexsmirnov: yes. that's repo issue
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: ok
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: you have one more 3.3.2.CR1 bug
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: I'm reading it now
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: do you agree with the fix John Leed suggests
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov
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balunasj: What do you mean ?
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11:50am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: with the changes that John leed suggest in RF-5212 fix the issue?
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11:50am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: s/with/will
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11:50am
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alexsmirnov
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Oh, see that. I did not pay attention to name
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov:
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balunasj
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if it does it might be a quick fix
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11:50am
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balunasj
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have not had a chance to review closely
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11:51am
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: no, this will break framework
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11:51am
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nbelaevski
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he has removed the part that does framework loading
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11:51am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: hehe - I guess that would be a problem
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11:52am
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: his main point is to put RF .jars into shared library
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11:52am
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balunasj
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This seems like they want RF in shared lib
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: yes
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11:52am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: cross posted
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alexsmirnov
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Put RichFaces libraries ( except richfaces-api ) into the common folder does not possible except we cut all configuration files from them.
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nbelaevski
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and this breaks admin application
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: if they are going to that they need a way to isolate class paths by application in the shared locations.
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: alexsmirnov : ok so this is a "wont fix"
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11:53am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: can you update it and explain it in the jira
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11:54am
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balunasj
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the other minor and optional jira should be shifted to future or if they are needed for GA, and are not risky can be moved to 3.3.2.GA
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alexsmirnov
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Yes. Even with configuration cut, richfaces components could contain static fields that require a separate class loader tor each web application. It is not possible for shared libraries.
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: agree and makes sense
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balunasj
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the AS team for JBoss was just discussing something similiar
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11:56am
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balunasj
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I will be creating a 3.3.3.CR1 release that we can move some jira's too
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balunasj
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although this is not scheduled or planned as a release yet.
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alexsmirnov
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balunasj: 3.3.3 ?
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: for placing jira's that we will not get into this release, but should be in the next one (if/when we have it).
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11:57am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: We will likely not have a 3.3.3 release unless there are critical issues, or the community provide patches, updates because we will be focused on 4.0
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: anything else critical from dev for this meeting?
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: I think we covered the key items
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: no
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: no more critical. i agree we've covered key items
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: ok thanks - I'll be reviewing the jira's this afternoon and help to move some out - let me know if I step on any toes
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balunasj
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smukhina1: I think we discussed docs already
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alexsmirnov
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I just fixed Hibernate/Bean validation issues today. Now that stack supports localisation properly for all cases.
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balunasj
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tkuprevich1: How about QE and the 3.3.2.CR1 release
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: ok, good
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: I saw those commits thansk
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balunasj
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tkuprevich1: are you ready to test this release next week?  What is left to complete before the build?
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12:01pm
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smukhina1
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yes, docs migration is discussed.
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balunasj
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smukhina1: yup - we'll talk more about that tomorrow when I get in the office
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12:02pm
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tkuprevich1
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balunasj: yes I think we are. i'm trying test launches
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12:02pm
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balunasj
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tkuprevich1: great - we'll talk more at thursday's qe meeting about this too.
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12:02pm
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balunasj
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Does anyone have anything else to bring up before we end the meeting?
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tkuprevich1
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balunasj: sure
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balunasj
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ok everyone thanks