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[16:55:56] nbelaevski: hello all
[16:56:43] abelevich: hi
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[17:01:00] abelevich: hi again
[17:01:53] nbelaevski: abelevich: hi
[17:05:09] nbelaevski: ok, let's get started
[17:05:44] nbelaevski: the first point is development status
[17:06:06] nbelaevski: iteration components development
[17:06:14] nbelaevski: abelevich: how is it going?
[17:07:03] abelevich: seems fine, I've read requiments in our wiki the questions which appears we discussed yesterday with you
[17:07:45] abelevich: today I've a talk with Lex about html mockup specific features
[17:08:22] abelevich: also today I'll create project structure in the svn
[17:08:57] nbelaevski: ok, how does the structure look like?
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[17:11:25] abelevich: I've a question right about structure :) ...  Is our dataTables should be in one project dir  like in the 3.3.X or it should be 2 different projects?
[17:12:02] nbelaevski: I think yes, one project
[17:13:08] abelevich: ok
[17:13:38] nbelaevski: you are working in sandbox, right?
[17:13:50] abelevich: yup
[17:15:33] nbelaevski: ok, what subtasks for iteration components are you planning to complete this week?
[17:18:39] abelevich: 1. create svn structure 2. write draft plan for the development
[17:20:38] alexsmirnov: abelevich: Just for information and to catch possible design ideas, take a look for Trinidad repeater/table/tree components.
[17:21:11] abelevich: alexsmirnov: thanks
[17:21:49] nbelaevski: alexsmirnov: is it the same model as used in Gravel?
[17:22:44] alexsmirnov: That are JSF components from ADF :Their class hierarchy is :
[17:22:46] alexsmirnov: UIXCollection -- UIXIterator    -- UIXTable       -- CoreTable -- UIXHierarchy    -- UIXTree       -- UIXTreeTable          -- CoreTreeTable    -- UIXNavigationHierarchy       -- UIXNavigationLevel          -- CoreNavigationPane
[17:23:12] alexsmirnov: oops, irc lost formatting.
[17:24:32] nbelaevski: ok, I'll need to check this too
[17:24:59] nbelaevski: alexsmirnov: which one would you recommend to choose as base for RichFaces UIData component?
[17:28:46] nbelaevski: ok, let's discuss this offline then
[17:28:54] abelevich: ok
[17:29:51] nbelaevski: for component migration and lifecycle - the work hasn't been started yet, I think we'll discuss this point later
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[17:30:29] nbelaevski: abelevich: pyaschenko: I think this is not urgent now, right?
[17:30:56] abelevich: I think so
[17:31:01] nbelaevski: ok
[17:31:29] nbelaevski: pyaschenko: how are AJAX client-side library and queues are going?
[17:34:24] pyaschenko: nbelaevski: I have made code review and investigation. Now we can start to do AJAX tasks.
[17:34:39] nbelaevski: pyaschenko: ok, good. any questions?
[17:35:45] nbelaevski: pyaschenko: ping
[17:37:49] pyaschenko: nbelaevski: no
[17:38:12] nbelaevski: ok, the next point is CDK
[17:39:07] nbelaevski: alexsmirnov: I've tried to migrate a4j:outputPanel this Sunday and got several issues
[17:39:48] nbelaevski: first one is that CDK entities cannot be made modular - XPointer scheme is not supported
[17:40:14] nbelaevski: how do you think, is there any chance to get support for this feature?
[17:41:17] alexsmirnov: nbelaevski: That is a problem. No one Java library supports XPointer scheme but ' element' only.
[17:43:03] alexsmirnov: Fortunately, Xerces allows to include not well-formed xml fragments ( with multiply root elements ), so we can use such fragments in CDK
[17:44:17] nbelaevski: ok, I see
[17:44:25] alexsmirnov: I'll change APT processor to include such fragments too ( instead of well-formed xml files with formal root element ), so we will use the same files in all cases.
[17:45:11] nbelaevski: and the second question: is support for renderer annotations ready?
[17:45:47] alexsmirnov: I'm working on Maven plugin now. Please write comments for proposed plugin configuration at http://www.jboss.org/community/wiki/MavenCDKpluginconfiguration
[17:46:40] alexsmirnov: renderer annotation not yet supportes, same as for other JSF parts ( listeners, converters and so on ).
[17:48:14] nbelaevski: ok, I'll try to go without them
[17:49:43] nbelaevski: alexsmirnov: any updates for unit tests?
[17:51:52] alexsmirnov: Not yet. I'm working with CDK.
[17:51:59] nbelaevski: alexsmirnov: ok, thanks
[17:53:19] nbelaevski: I've been talking with Lex today and he needs our participation in semantic layouts discussion
[17:54:29] nbelaevski: he has posted three possible choices on how to make semantic layouts compatible with multiline text and different fonts
[17:54:36] nbelaevski: please review and comment: https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/RFPL-96
[17:55:44] nbelaevski: ok, is everybody comfortable with A2 plan?
[17:56:28] nbelaevski: abelevich: I've send transcripts from last week planning meetings to you - please take a look
[17:58:00] nbelaevski: ok, looks like everybody's comfortable with the plan
[17:58:27] abelevich: ok I'll take thanks!
[17:58:58] nbelaevski: smukhina1: how is setting up documentation builds for 4.0 going? 
[18:00:22] smukhina1: we've already reviewed and rewrite according to a new structure 80% of components
[18:01:15] nbelaevski: smukhina1: great, are they checked into SVN?
[18:02:11] smukhina1: they are in SVN but in branches in 33x
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[18:03:14] nbelaevski: smukhina1: ok, please let me know when you'll be migrating them - I'll check if they fit into new build system well
[18:03:29] smukhina1: ok
[18:03:49] nbelaevski: btw, abelevich: will describe setting up environment for new build system soon
[18:03:56] nbelaevski: so it should be easy
[18:04:05] nbelaevski: smukhina1: any questions/concerns?
[18:04:22] smukhina1: no
[18:04:27] nbelaevski: smukhina1: ok, thanks
[18:05:57] nbelaevski: prabhat: are you comfortable with A2 plans?
[18:06:44] nbelaevski: prabhat: http://www.jboss.org/community/wiki/RichFaces40ALPHA2ReleasePlan
[18:07:38] prabhat: nbelaevski: looking ..just a min
[18:08:11] prabhat: nbelaevski: i was not paying too much attention to call..when is the targetted release?
[18:08:29] nbelaevski: prabhat: end of October
[18:09:25] nbelaevski: prabhat: that's no problem - I just wanted to know if you've got questions that we can discuss now
[18:09:25] prabhat: nbelaevski: for alpha2, I will definitely do a whole lot more than alpha1 but right now I am focussed more on 3.3.3
[18:09:29] prabhat: ooops 3.3.2
[18:09:37] nbelaevski: prabhat: yes, I know
[18:09:49] prabhat: nbelaevski: let me go through wiki first and I will fire up if I have any
[18:10:13] nbelaevski: prabhat: sure, please
[18:10:27] prabhat: nbelaevski: that's it from me
[18:10:52] nbelaevski: prabhat: I've added the points for example applications from you
[18:11:14] prabhat: nbelaevski: so that we can reuse some of tests we developed, right?
[18:11:18] nbelaevski: prabhat: yesd
[18:11:21] nbelaevski: * yes
[18:11:39] prabhat: nbelaevski: great..that would really help me otherwise I will be reinventing the wheel :)
[18:12:11] nbelaevski: prabhat: yes :)
[18:12:57] prabhat: nbelaevski: no question right now
[18:13:12] nbelaevski: prabhat: ok, thanks for looking!
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[18:13:20] prabhat: np
[18:13:45] nbelaevski: thanks everybody! meeting minutes will be posted in a usual place