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[18:00:15] nbelaevski: hello all
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[18:01:00] nbelaevski: msorokin: hi Mike
[18:01:14] msorokin: Hi Nick.
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[18:03:32] amarkhel: Hello, All
[18:03:36] nbelaevski: ok, let's get started
[18:03:41] nbelaevski: amarkhel: hello Andrei
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[18:03:55] abelevich: hi
[18:04:06] nbelaevski: first of all 3.3.2.GA release
[18:04:11] pyaschenko1: hi
[18:04:29] nbelaevski: we still cannot meet tagging conditions due to some Selenium tests failing
[18:05:08] prabhat: nbelaevski: but we hope to tag today :)
[18:05:08] prabhat: and I think we can
[18:05:22] nbelaevski: Prabhat has splitted tests into separate configurations, so they are running right now
[18:06:22] nbelaevski: prabhat: ok, I think that we can add failing tests to "failures" group and resolve them just after tagging
[18:06:48] prabhat: nbelaevski: yes, passing of all component test with all parsers is not a critieria for tagging.
[18:08:00] nbelaevski: prabhat: what if none of parsers will show 100% today and we won't be able to reproduce problems locally?
[18:09:01] prabhat: nbelaevski: for CR1, we did not even run these tests and we still released. :-)
[18:09:20] prabhat: nbelaevski: so we can relax criteria little bit
[18:09:24] nbelaevski: prabhat: that's right
[18:10:23] nbelaevski: prabhat: ok, then let's do tagging today and start testing. are you ok with this?
[18:10:58] prabhat: nbelaevski: yup totally
[18:11:14] nbelaevski: JIRA has only minor unresolved issues for development, mostly for photoalbum, so it's clear also
[18:11:18] nbelaevski: prabhat: ok, thanks
[18:11:37] nbelaevski: Konstantin1: please do tagging after the meeting
[18:12:15] Konstantin1: ok
[18:12:42] nbelaevski: let's go to documentation team then
[18:13:22] msorokin: we have actually discussed everything this morning :)
[18:13:23] nbelaevski: msorokin: docs build has failed today - were you able to check it?
[18:13:39] msorokin: ok. I'll do that right now
[18:13:48] nbelaevski: msorokin: thanks
[18:15:11] nbelaevski: msorokin: any questions or concerns?
[18:15:51] msorokin: no. i don't have so far.
[18:17:05] nbelaevski: ok, then to QA
[18:17:50] nbelaevski: Konstantin1 will tag and build distribution, so QA will be able to start testing
[18:19:16] nbelaevski: prabhat: any questions or concerns?
[18:19:48] prabhat: nbelaevski: i think we are good. We are also going to be using test-applications for manual testing and will let you know if I have some question
[18:20:26] nbelaevski: prabhat: sure, please
[18:20:56] nbelaevski: ok, let's move to 4.0 status
[18:22:02] nbelaevski: iteration components and tables: abelevich: what's going on?
[18:23:02] abelevich: why
[18:23:11] abelevich: today?
[18:23:48] nbelaevski: abelevich: sorry?
[18:26:06] abelevich: :) .. I've created base dev. sample and components base structure in the svn,maven poms
[18:27:00] nbelaevski: abelevich: what about development plan?
[18:27:31] abelevich: today we had a discussion about componets implementation specific details ... dev plan also created
[18:28:34] nbelaevski: abelevich: is it committed to SVN?
[18:28:52] abelevich: no, where I should  commiy it?
[18:29:06] nbelaevski: abelevich: ok, better distribute it by e-mail
[18:29:12] abelevich: np
[18:29:18] nbelaevski: abelevich: good
[18:30:01] nbelaevski: also on tables... I've discussed base class for iteration components with Alex Smirnov yesterday and have started coding it
[18:30:33] nbelaevski: going to finish it by the next week
[18:30:39] abelevich: Will we should use it with dataTables ?
[18:30:42] nbelaevski: yes
[18:31:04] abelevich: hm ... ok... what about dataModels?
[18:31:42] nbelaevski: standard data models to support as the first step
[18:31:54] nbelaevski: those that JSF provides
[18:32:18] nbelaevski: plus ExtendedDataModel as the second step
[18:32:38] abelevich: I'll create a forum post with question what apeared during todays offline meeting ...
[18:32:48] nbelaevski: abelevich: yes, that's necessary
[18:33:11] nbelaevski: please share a link in wiki article
[18:34:32] abelevich: sorry ... about extendedDataTables ... I am not sure  what we will use it ...
[18:35:38] abelevich: pls ignore prev post :)
[18:36:26] nbelaevski: abelevich: no problem
[18:36:36] nbelaevski: abelevich: any other questions?
[18:36:56] abelevich: no
[18:37:05] nbelaevski: abelevich: ok, good
[18:37:13] nbelaevski: pyaschenko1: how is development going?
[18:38:23] pyaschenko1: nbelaevski: Now I'm workin on ajax implementation (https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/RF-7888)
[18:39:07] pyaschenko1: client side code developnemt in progress
[18:39:39] pyaschenko1: ^development :)
[18:40:27] nbelaevski: pyaschenko1: ok, do you have any estimates when this task is completed?
[18:41:52] nbelaevski: pyaschenko1: ping
[18:42:47] pyaschenko1: nbelaevski: don't have now, because we should discuss some questions about implementation details with you
[18:43:50] nbelaevski: pyaschenko1: agree, can you please create forum thread on that and link it to the planning wiki article?
[18:44:42] nbelaevski: pyaschenko1: any other questions/concerns?
[18:44:47] pyaschenko1: no
[18:44:51] nbelaevski: pyaschenko1: ok, thanks
[18:45:49] nbelaevski: on CDK... I've talked with Alex yesterday, he'll finished XInclude support, this is yet to test
[18:46:29] abelevich: what is XInclude?
[18:47:14] nbelaevski: abelevich: W3C specification for XML fragments inclusion
[18:47:30] abelevich: ok
[18:47:51] ilya_shaikovsky: how about his usage articles... if he provided some estimations on when we could actually try CDK new features?
[18:48:07] ilya_shaikovsky: not only articles but the features itself finalization
[18:48:08] ilya_shaikovsky: ?
[18:49:32] nbelaevski: ilya_shaikovsky: I'm trying them right now
[18:49:54] nbelaevski: ilya_shaikovsky: not much info, but enough to start doing components
[18:50:12] ilya_shaikovsky: I'm about actual status e.g. which points are not ready ?
[18:50:24] ilya_shaikovsky: In order not to try non working things
[18:50:40] nbelaevski: ilya_shaikovsky: renderers generation is not finished - XML schema requires some redesign
[18:51:15] ilya_shaikovsky: Is he still updating wiki page he created before JBoss world for Jay?  (status page for CDK)
[18:51:27] nbelaevski: ilya_shaikovsky: I don't know
[18:51:46] ilya_shaikovsky: ok.. thanks! will try to check the page and also play with it
[18:51:53] nbelaevski: ok
[18:52:15] nbelaevski: ilya_shaikovsky: have you had a chance to review components priority list?
[18:52:54] ilya_shaikovsky: not finished checking yet. I will concentrate on it tommorow
[18:53:03] nbelaevski: ok, good
[18:53:34] nbelaevski: please review latest comments to data table components wiki article
[18:54:23] ilya_shaikovsky: yup already saw them and will answer
[18:54:40] nbelaevski: thanks
[18:55:01] nbelaevski: Bean validation components and integration - what about this point? any activity this week?
[18:56:31] ilya_shaikovsky: Think in the end of the week. Or from the beggining of the next one if will need more time for current A2 pages changes review
[18:56:49] ilya_shaikovsky: mean ...could start
[18:59:26] nbelaevski: ilya_shaikovsky: ok, I see
[19:00:44] nbelaevski: ilya_shaikovsky: please take a look at AJAX caching thread on design forum
[19:01:13] ilya_shaikovsky: ok
[19:01:36] nbelaevski: mosorokin: prabhat: any questions/concerns for 4.0.A2?
[19:01:53] nbelaevski: sorry, msorokin: any questions/concerns for 4.0.A2?
[19:02:16] prabhat: nbelaevski: no comment for A2 currently
[19:02:24] nbelaevski: prabhat: ok
[19:03:27] nbelaevski: msorokin: ping
[19:03:51] msorokin: no. i have no questions pertaining 4.0.A2?
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[19:03:58] ilya_shaikovsky: prabhat how do the wiki page looking for you to work with(core components created before A1)? maybe some more important for  you points still missed?
[19:04:01] nbelaevski: msorokin: ok
[19:04:06] msorokin: by the way the docs build is ok.
[19:04:19] msorokin: you can check that on hudson.
[19:04:45] prabhat: ilya_shaikovsky: TBH, I have not looked on 4.0 stuff at all for past week..there has been too much to do with 3.3.2.GA
[19:04:52] nbelaevski: msorokin, ok, thanks I see it's fixed
[19:05:24] ilya_shaikovsky: yup! sure.. just wanted to ask because didn't know about that because of my vacation :)
[19:05:25] prabhat: ilya_shaikovsky: i will have lot more flexibility starting next week
[19:05:47] ilya_shaikovsky: if some problems will arise - just let me know
[19:05:56] prabhat: ilya_shaikovsky: i know how to bug people :)
[19:06:06] ilya_shaikovsky: :)
[19:06:43] nbelaevski: :)
[19:07:25] prabhat: nbelaevski: cant you freeze 3.3.x branch now and open only for Konstantin
[19:07:28] prabhat: ?
[19:08:45] nbelaevski: prabhat: yes, he'll do this before starting build
[19:09:23] nbelaevski: prabhat: I've forgotten to relocate RF Facelets archetype
[19:09:32] nbelaevski: prabhat: we'll do and start the build
[19:09:32] prabhat: nbelaevski: ok
[19:10:09] nbelaevski: ok, thanks everybody for joining! minutes will be posted in a usual place
[19:10:34] ilya_shaikovsky: Thanks guys. see you!
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