balunasj
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http://www.jboss.org/community/wiki/RichFaces40TeamMeetingAgenda9-30-2009
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balunasj
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^ Agenda
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balunasj
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The big item I want to discuss in the client library
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balunasj
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I have been focused on 3.3.2. stuff and catching up on emails so I have not read through all the wiki updates.
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alexsmirnov
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Hi! I just prepared a cup of coffe.
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: I did the same thing
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balunasj
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go juice!!
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balunasj
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pyaschenko: angenda - http://www.jboss.org/community/wiki/RichFaces40TeamMeetingAgenda9-30-2009
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pyaschenko
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thanks
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: I have been reading your emails to the EG, and jim's responses
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10:07am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: I think it is very important to keep that dialog going and they seem very willing to work with us
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: I wanted to get your take on your investigation, and discuss what can be done to keep true to the spec
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10:08am
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alexsmirnov
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Yes, they are. We have a little bit different approach to JavaScript development, but it is usual differences
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: hehe
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: do you agree that it is important to not replace jsf.js?  It seems important to the interop
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alexsmirnov
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I spent a lot of time on Monday to prepare my replies, but result does not satisfy me. I'm not sure what I wrote out my things clear.
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alexsmirnov
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jsf.js seems as implementation enforced into API. That is not a way for specification, but JSF-api already contains about of quarter of implementation code
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: Some of it was hard for me to follow as well, but the msg was ok I think.  I think that after
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balunasj
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3.3.2.GA is released you and I should work on a blog and dive into the tech details
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balunasj
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then we can both write and discuss
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balunasj
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sound good?
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alexsmirnov
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yes, it's fine.
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: ok good - perhaps we should set up a face-to-face in October some time
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: I may be able to fly out to San Fran for a few days
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: we can talk off line more
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: In the mean time I think it is important that you continue to work with jim
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: Besides 3.3.2.GA release stuff I think this is the highest priority
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: do you agree
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balunasj
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?
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alexsmirnov
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It's ok. I completly sure what we will get much more concerns about JSF 2.0 code during development
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balunasj
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yeah - I agree
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: I just think that working with the EG and RI when we have a problem is more important that fixing
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balunasj
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a problem the fasted way.  Sometimes we may need to comprimise to be "good citizens" - but I know you know that
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alexsmirnov
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Yes, i know I'm running through emails, It seems that GA build should be re-deployed again. Is it ready ?
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: It is ready to be built - ilya_shaikovsky and markhel merged the fixes for 7835 (?)
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ilya_shaikovsky
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yes, I merged the fix already
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balunasj
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Just to touch on 3.3.2.GA release quickly -
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balunasj
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I think we should release on Monday, but be ready to release on Friday
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balunasj
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This is what we did in the last release and worked out well.
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balunasj
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ilya_shaikovsky and I should still have everything ready to go ( site, blog, etc...)
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: can have files uploaded
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balunasj
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and docs in place
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balunasj
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then wait for first thing monday to make announcement and site live
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balunasj
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Gives extra time for QE to verify dist
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ilya_shaikovsky
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sure Jay.. I will put the info to Magnolia project site today
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balunasj
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ilya_shaikovsky: today or tomorrow is fine
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ilya_shaikovsky
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okay
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alexsmirnov
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I do not take a look yet what was changed in the documentation deployment.
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: the doc deployment is pretty easy
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: It is the downloads.jboss.org that is ?
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balunasj
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I'll ping IT about it
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balunasj
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nick and kostya ( is that right for Konstantin? )
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balunasj
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were the only ones that knew how todo this
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alexsmirnov
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Downloads.jboss.org is easy too, if there was no change in the authorization sertificates.
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balunasj
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ok good - if you have the instructions could you forward to me offline - I have not done it and would like to know how?
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alexsmirnov
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3.3.2 would be not ready to build. Nick dif fix in the richfaces-demo that displays tag descriptions, but it seems as not merged to tag.
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alexsmirnov
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s/dif/did
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: when did that happen?
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balunasj
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what is the rev in svn do you know?
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ilya_shaikovsky
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checking the differences now
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alexsmirnov
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Last week. We caught a problem on http://livedemo.exadel.com/richfaces-demo, for wich Nick did fix and I deployed proper war to server.
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alexsmirnov
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I have no log for that on my home PC, it is in office.
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: ok - was it is critical fix?
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ilya_shaikovsky
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yes, without it all tag information tags on all samples reported an error that included content not found
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balunasj
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ilya_shaikovsky: alexsmirnov : if it is a simple merge lets wait and do it.
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balunasj
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ilya_shaikovsky: hehe - yeah that is important
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balunasj
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ilya_shaikovsky, alexsmirnov : please take a look and merge the change
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ilya_shaikovsky
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svn today slower than usual for me for some reason.. I'm still waiting for compare results.. but should not be too long
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balunasj
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ilya_shaikovsky: no problem - can be done offline
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ilya_shaikovsky
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sure
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balunasj
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ok lets get back to 4.0
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: Please keep working with EG and investigate jsf.js stuff with pavel
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: I'll be waiting the 314-open mailing list and we'll touch base
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balunasj
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Lets move on to the iteration component and discuss status and questions
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balunasj
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this is the area I did not read about yet - no I'll have limited feedback this week
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alexsmirnov
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I did no touch iterations this week too.
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balunasj
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ilya_shaikovsky: Who else has been working on this?
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balunasj
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I know Nick and you had several discussions
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abelevich
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balunasJ: Ilya will be in a minute he has a problem with his computer ... let's I describe what I've done
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balunasj
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Please
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abelevich
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now I've implemented simple table ui, renderer classes based on UIDataAdaptor (base class for iteration components), which could work with standard jsf data model
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balunasj
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What is up with you client   Might be time to look for a new one
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abelevich
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also I've started discussion about dataModel processing http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&t=161594
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balunasj
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abelevich: yes I just started looking at the topic - nice to see it in the forums
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balunasj
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abelevich: where can I go test out the component - is it ready to be played with or still in dev?
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Marauder is now known as ilya_shaikovsky.
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abelevich
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there is a simple dev sample in the examples-sandbox
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balunasj
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abelevich: ok good - I saw that, but have not tried yet.
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abelevich
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but it support only basic table functionality
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balunasj
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abelevich: are there any big questions or concerns that need to be addressed or do you have a good handle on it?
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balunasj
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abelevich: I'll try to review the wiki asap, but probably not until later this week
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abelevich
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I think we need to decide in that what way we should implement our tables do we need  visual models  for them as nick proposed
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balunasj
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abelevich: is this discussed in the forum thread?
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ilya_shaikovsky
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the discussion was started
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balunasj
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abelevich: if so I'll need to read and review before commenting
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ilya_shaikovsky
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but we need to talk more together with Alex to make decision
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abelevich
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but we didn't choose anything yet ..
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ilya_shaikovsky
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let's plan some offline meeting for that
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balunasj
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abelevich: ok
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balunasj
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ilya_shaikovsky: I agree, please include me in that, but lets postpone to early next week
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balunasj
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lets get 3.3.2.GA out and then we'll be less distracted
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ilya_shaikovsky
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agree
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abelevich
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ok
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balunasj
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great
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balunasj
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The same goes for discussions on the assembler
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov and I had a talk about the XInclude and apache lic'ed files in the cocoon base.
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ppitonak
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balunasj: ilya_shaikovsky how should panel menu work?
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balunasj
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ppitonak: could you please wait a 5 minutes and we'll wrap up the meeting we are in?
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ppitonak
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balunasj: np
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: There was no good way around including some of the apache lic'ed files, but they will be isolated and hopefully replaceable at some point int he future.
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: we will do a review of the license status when Nick comes back anyway because of some other items.
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balunasj
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I wanted to cover some wrap up items from last weeks meetings
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balunasj
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They are in the community section of the agenda
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balunasj
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ilya_shaikovsky: Where you able to test out the CDK walk through?
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balunasj
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ilya_shaikovsky: or create a project archive?  Was there a jira made for this?
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balunasj
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ilya_shaikovsky: that would be a RFPL
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alexsmirnov
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Apache files are already isolated as 'xinclude' module, it would be easy replaced.
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: good
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You were promoted to operator by ChanServ.
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balunasj
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I guess it is my turn to have a problem with my IRC client
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ilya_shaikovsky
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<balunasj> I started at friday has some problems and questions to Alex but not had a chance to continue this week. But I will for sure. And b.tw. didn't created the issue. So will create right now.
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balunasj
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ilya_shaikovsky: ok cool - we have a lot on the plate atm - so np
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balunasj
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Next - I agree with the wiki break out idea that was discussed last week
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alexsmirnov
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Yesterday, I wrote out article about CDK plugin configuration http://www.jboss.org/community/wiki/MavenCDKpluginconfiguration
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: ok cool - I'll review when I get a chance as well
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balunasj
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I like the idea of marking wiki pages somehow
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balunasj
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Wanted to make sure some actions were identified or jira's created
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balunasj
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be right back
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balunasj
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sorry had a strange guy walking around my house
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balunasj
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ok so lets wrap up I'll cover the the other items offline