balunasj
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Let go ahead and get started - the agenda is here - http://community.jboss.org/wiki/RichFacesTeamMeetingAgenda12-22-2009
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11:01am
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balunasj
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We are almost ready to release RichFaces 3.3.3.BETA1!!!
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11:01am
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balunasj
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QE has completed there testing
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11:02am
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balunasj
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Konstantin has uploaded the artifacts
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11:02am
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balunasj
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QE have verified them
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11:02am
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balunasj
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I am just waiting on IT ( shocker ) to upload the docs.
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11:02am
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balunasj
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ilya_shaikovsky: How is the site - ready to go live?
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11:03am
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ilya_shaikovsky
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balunasj, yup.. except the announce which I not changed because afraid of immediate commit
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balunasj
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ilya_shaikovsky: sure
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11:03am
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balunasj
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11:03am
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balunasj
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I also want to review the wiki pages here
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11:04am
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balunasj
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http://community.jboss.org/wiki/RichFaces333andJSF20
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11:04am
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balunasj
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I may go in and format it a bit, but any other additions to content?
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11:04am
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balunasj
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remembering this is BETA for the wiki too.
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: Alex_Kolonitsky : lfryc : if it is all set, then lets go with that.
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lfryc
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balunasj: I am currently adding maven dependency definition for adding JSR-303 there
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11:05am
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balunasj
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lfryc: yup - saw your email
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11:06am
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: for me seems like ok
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11:06am
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balunasj
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so through the BETA we'll update as needed.
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11:06am
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balunasj
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Sean was having some issues with API and TLD doc inclusion with bundle
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nbelaevski
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lfryc, can you please check if http://people.redhat.com/~ebernard/validation/fab/hibernate-validator-4.0.1.GA.zip works without VPN?
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balunasj
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so he is going to add these bits tonight, but the primary bundle is there.
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: I am not in VPN right now and the link works for me
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11:07am
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nbelaevski
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lfryc, false alert, suddenly started to work
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11:08am
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balunasj
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so once I verify the docs are uploaded we can pull the trigger
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lfryc
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nbelaevski: yeah, it's link from JSR-303
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nbelaevski
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I see
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balunasj
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ilya_shaikovsky: how long will you be around?
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balunasj
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hi amarkhel
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balunasj
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amarkhel: have you had a chance to review http://community.jboss.org/wiki/RichFaces333andJSF20
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amarkhel
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balunasj:hi
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amarkhel
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yes
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balunasj
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amarkhel: ok good
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ilya_shaikovsky
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ilya_shaikovsky, I will go home after meeting but will be online - so we could adjust updates as needed
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11:10am
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balunasj
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ilya_shaikovsky: ok great - wait for me to make the site live - I'll talk to you later about it.
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balunasj
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ilya_shaikovsky: I just checked and docs are not up yet
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ilya_shaikovsky
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sure
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ilya_shaikovsky
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yes I also saw
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balunasj
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So except for the final steps and updating jira - is there anything else that is needed or we are missing?
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11:11am
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balunasj
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Since this is just a BETA demos should not be updated,
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balunasj
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and announcements are limited
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balunasj
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to blog, twitter, forums.
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balunasj
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ok
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balunasj
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so lets move on and touch base on post 3.3.3.BETA1 plan
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11:13am
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balunasj
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I propose we target end of January for the next release of 3.3.3 - either BETA2 or CR1
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11:14am
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balunasj
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We can review issues as they come, and decide in early january about B2 or CR1.
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: sounds ok
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balunasj
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In parallel we'll be working on 4.0 A2.
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balunasj
 
reschedule and firm up status
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11:16am
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balunasj
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Many of us will be taking time off for the holidays
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balunasj
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although I'll be checking mail off/on
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balunasj
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if anything comes up.
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balunasj
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One big change many have probably seen is the new forums
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balunasj
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and software for it.
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balunasj
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The .org team is very busy tracking any issue, and we have already discussed some usability items.
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balunasj
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One topic that was brought up was migrating wiki pages
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11:19am
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balunasj
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In the older wiki all pages from all projects were in one "space" called wiki.
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11:19am
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balunasj
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With the new upgrade we'll be able to have our own content segregated into the "richfaces" space.
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11:20am
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balunasj
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I'm looking into this more, but it looks like this might be manual and up to the project to do.
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balunasj
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Hopefully there will be some tools or ways to assist with this.
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balunasj
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I just wanted to give a heads up.
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balunasj
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Also we will be able to customize our "space" with out logo, and links.
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balunasj
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This is obviously a "side-project" but any ideas or thoughts I'll share and we can discuss.
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lightguard_jp
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_eMaX_1: Sorry had to run out.  Any luck?
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balunasj
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Another side effect of this change will be that we can restrict posting to the developer sub-space
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_eMaX_1
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yes. but don't want to disturb the discussion. nbelaevski had the solution.
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balunasj
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so ilya_shaikovsky , nbelaevski and I don't need to remind users about posting question to the design forum
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balunasj
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Again not sure of the timeline here - it depends on .org team and how much we can do on our own.
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: community users post good thoughts on design forum, so we can leave them the access
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balunasj
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I'll create some jira's for this.
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ilya_shaikovsky
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yes I agree with Nick
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ilya_shaikovsky
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but we need to return some highlighting that this forum not for usage question back
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ilya_shaikovsky
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because this week after update it was used more often than before
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balunasj
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I think we can limit posting on development space, but allow anyone that wants to post access.
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nbelaevski
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moving between spaces will solve our issues... all questions will be seamlessly moved to the right place
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: that is a nice part I agree
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alexsmirnov
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balunasj: Do you mean to disable non-team members posting ? I think side comments and suggestions are important, so true policy would be complicated.
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balunasj
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let me think on it for now.
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: I'll need to see how it can be set up
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alexsmirnov
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nbelaevski: Yes, it would be better to move user questions.
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: talking about this, I'd like to ask: yeterday I found users comment on the wiki page in which he says - "editor in modal panel doesn't work"
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: I was imagining something like the jsr-314-open list ( hate that name ).  Where the EG, and other people that asked for access can post.
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: wiki article was not about editor or modal panel
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: I guess we need to clear this things out also, right?
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: once I get you and ilya_shaikovsky moderator you should be able to remove this.
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balunasj
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I have edit/delete rights for richfaces space
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: just to confirm: remove comments from wiki?
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: I think a completely inappropriate, hostile post can/should be removed.
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: If it is at all relavent then it should stay
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balunasj
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or the user be pointed in the right direction on where to post.
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: ok, good. offtopic posts will go away then
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: once you have moderator power you can also "branch" discussions
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balunasj
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not sure about articles
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balunasj
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so that something like this could be branched to its own thread.
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: yup, that's ideal solution
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balunasj
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However the comment you reference above seems inappropriate in more way
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balunasj
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ok so I'll hold off on any restrictions for now
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balunasj
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we'll wait and see what options we have and then discuss again another time.
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balunasj
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I'll take a look at other features and see what we can do to get out content from the general wiki into the richfaces space.
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balunasj
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anything else regarding the 3.3.3 release?
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balunasj
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prabhat: ilya_shaikovsky : nbelaevski : amarkhel Konstantin :^
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prabhat
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balunasj: nope..we are done from my perspective
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: no
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ilya_shaikovsky
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balunasj, seems all looking good for now
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balunasj
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awesome guys!!
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prabhat
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balunasj: i would need to discuss about jsf2 aspect of testing with 3.3.3 but will do next year
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balunasj
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prabhat: sure
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balunasj
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Ok everyone - thanks, and I wish all of you happy holidays - what ever and where ever that may be
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balunasj
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I thin 2010 will be a BIG year for RichFaces and JSF, and I look forward to it!!!
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balunasj
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s/thin/think
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: thanks Jay and all! have a happy holidays and fun NY party
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ilya_shaikovsky
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Thanks Happy holidays guys!
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alexsmirnov
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Happy holidays!
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pyaschenko1
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Happy holidays!