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11:12am
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balunasj
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OK lets begin the team meeting
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11:12am
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balunasj
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the agenda is posted here - http://community.jboss.org/wiki/RichFacesTeamMeetingAgenda1-19-2010
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11:13am
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abelevich
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hi
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11:13am
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balunasj
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My main goal here is to go over the dates and progress for 3.3.3.
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11:13am
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balunasj
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We've been talking about 4.0 for the last couple of hours
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11:16am
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balunasj
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There are 9 issues left in RF
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11:16am
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balunasj
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https://jira.jboss.org/jira/secure/BrowseVersion.jspa?id=12310341&versionId=12313806&showOpenIssuesOnly=true
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11:16am
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balunasj
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one is docs that I'll discuss tomorrow with sean.
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11:16am
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balunasj
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ilya_shaikovsky: how does your issue look?
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11:17am
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ilya_shaikovsky
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my issue has very simple workaround but during the review we found another one which could potentially be the cause of other issues in IE
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11:18am
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balunasj
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is it in jira already?
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11:18am
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ilya_shaikovsky
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min.. Nick not assigned it because I entered it not long time ago.. let me find it
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11:18am
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ilya_shaikovsky
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https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/RF-8273
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11:18am
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balunasj
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np
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11:19am
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ilya_shaikovsky
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so we checked with Pasha if this is the reason of my issue.. It appeared that no.. but new one looks weird in any case
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11:19am
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balunasj
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is it complex to add month and day to id?
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11:19am
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balunasj
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or does it need some investigation?
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11:20am
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ilya_shaikovsky
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balunasj, it seems not complex and localized change
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11:20am
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ilya_shaikovsky
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pyaschenko ^
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11:20am
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11:22am
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balunasj
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hi amarkhel
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11:22am
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balunasj
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we are talking about an issue ilya found and then we'll talk about 3.3.3 status with you.
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11:22am
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amarkhel
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balunasj:hi
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11:24am
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balunasj
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pyaschenko:  have you had a chance to look at this issue?
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11:25am
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balunasj
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ilya_shaikovsky : how critical is this, and how long as it been like this?
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11:25am
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balunasj
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if this is not a regression and have been this way for a long time I would question making the change.
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11:26am
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pyaschenko
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balunasj: server side code should change id for tags in calendar cell template to expression with month and date
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11:27am
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ilya_shaikovsky
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balunasj, pyaschenko told that this could cause problems with IE browser.. but yes it's not a regression
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11:28am
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ilya_shaikovsky
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my main concern that it's last release and new problems would not good if we know about the reason and fix is simple
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11:28am
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ilya_shaikovsky
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last in 3.3 for sure
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11:29am
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balunasj
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11:29am
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balunasj
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If it is not risky and may cause a problem with IE8 I think we can add it.
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11:30am
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balunasj
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pyaschenko: would you be the one implementing this?
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11:32am
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balunasj
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amarkhel: how is your progress with 3.3.3 jiras?
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11:32am
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pyaschenko
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nbalunasj: I think Nick could fix it quickly, if not, I'll do it
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11:32am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: thoughts?
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11:33am
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: this fix can introduce some risk I think
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11:33am
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amarkhel
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balunasj: I had review all major issues and most of minor
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11:33am
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ilya_shaikovsky
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nbelaevski, which? we not find with Pasha today
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11:34am
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amarkhel
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balunasj: all major issues looks like is simple fixable
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11:35am
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balunasj
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amarkhel: do you have a estimate of when you can complete these?  end of week, early next?  If we can I would like to get this to QE a little before deadline.
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11:36am
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amarkhel
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balunasj: RF-8252 isn't reproduced, RF-8262 - patch, and I haven't problem with this
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11:36am
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balunasj
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amarkhel: looking....
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11:36am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: what are your concerns?
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11:37am
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balunasj
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for RF-8252 please ask for more information and/or a code example of the problem.
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11:37am
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amarkhel
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balunasj: agree
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11:37am
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: it's not simple to fix for all cases
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11:37am
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balunasj
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if he gets back to you quickly might be able to help otherwise we can close it I think.
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11:38am
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amarkhel
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balunasj:ok
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11:38am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: you mean the ID updates, or what issues might be caused by it?
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11:39am
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: id updates
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11:39am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: ok
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11:39am
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balunasj
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what is the possible effect with IE 8 ?
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11:40am
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pyaschenko
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balunasj: agree with Nick, it's not simple to fix
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11:41am
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balunasj
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ok - then unless the effect is very bad I think we should defer
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11:43am
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balunasj
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amarkhel: so when do you think you can resolve the remaining issues?
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11:44am
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amarkhel
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balunasj: all majors and one monor - tomorrow at night, other minors I can't estimate for now
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11:44am
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balunasj
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ok
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11:44am
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amarkhel
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balunasj: at night = tonight)
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11:44am
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balunasj
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please let me know if it will be longer than Monday.
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11:44am
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amarkhel
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balunasj:sure
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11:45am
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balunasj
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I would like to prep the release to QE by then.
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11:45am
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amarkhel
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ok
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11:45am
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balunasj
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Lets move on to QE status
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11:45am
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balunasj
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and then discuss jopr and RHQ issues
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11:45am
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balunasj
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prabhat: anything new, questions, or concerns for 3.3.3
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11:45am
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balunasj
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besides jopr tests
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11:45am
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balunasj
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prabhat
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balunasj: no concerns.. we have couple of apps with both jsf1.2 and jsf2 to verify few things
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11:46am
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prabhat
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balunasj: and we will stick with demo app and photo album for further testing
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11:47am
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balunasj
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ok good
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11:47am
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balunasj
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we'll follow up more with you next week - hopefully we'll have a build for testing.
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prabhat
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balunasj: yup..what's on jopr?
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11:48am
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balunasj
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so last week I worked with shelly and resolved a couple of issues with the jopr builds - mostly not related to RF.
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11:48am
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lfryc
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balunasj, prabhat: the richfaces-demo/functional-test on 6.0.0.M1 have a lot failures
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11:48am
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balunasj
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We did get to a point where were were seeing duplicate ID in a composite component
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11:49am
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balunasj
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This component was creating a table and thought of https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/RF-8223
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11:49am
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balunasj
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and
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11:50am
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balunasj
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https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/RF-8031
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11:50am
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balunasj
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however we were not able to find the composite component impl and trying the snapshots did not help
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11:50am
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balunasj
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so this has me concerned that we have a similar bug with a different component.
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11:51am
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balunasj
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shelly had some changed to check in and was going to talk with lfryc
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11:51am
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prabhat
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balunasj: EDT always have been a pain..we have added this component for more rigorous testing
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11:51am
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balunasj
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+1
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11:51am
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balunasj
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lfryc: have you heard form shelly?
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11:51am
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lfryc
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balunasj: not yet
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11:51am
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balunasj
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lfryc: ok
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11:52am
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balunasj
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I asked if she could be in this meeting but she had a conflict.
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11:52am
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lfryc
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balunasj: I will ask her for updates
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11:52am
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balunasj
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In any case she brute force fixed the duplicate ids and was going to check in it.
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11:52am
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balunasj
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to make a long story short
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11:52am
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balunasj
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shelly and rruss|mtg discussed this and jopr team.
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11:53am
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balunasj
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we are not going to release CR1 until we can test the JOPR app.
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11:53am
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balunasj
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shelly is continuing to work on this and we should have someone else from the jopr team assisting.
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11:54am
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rruss|mtg
 
needs to email shelly to make sure she has a jopr resource
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11:54am
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balunasj
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I believe we are close, but I also told rruss|mtg that once we have something we can test we still may find issues that require a fix on our side.
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11:54am
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balunasj
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rruss|mtg: thanks
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11:54am
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balunasj
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this is why it is so important to get the app going.
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11:55am
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prabhat
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balunasj: ya
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11:56am
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balunasj
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When we do get this working and are able to test we may just update the tag - if limited fixes - or have a CR2 - either way I want us to get our 3.3.3. issues resolved so we can be ready.
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11:56am
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prabhat
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balunasj: given that lfryc says there are issues with AS 6 M1, what's the priority on that?
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11:56am
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balunasj
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What I am not going to do is release, and then we find out after there is some issue the we need a SP1 for.  I would be pissed!
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11:56am
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prabhat
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balunasj: I am not in favor of RF 3.3  + AS 6 combo but that's just my opinion
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11:57am
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lfryc
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balunasj: prabhat I found following: http://hudson.qa.jboss.com/hudson/view/RichFaces/job/richfaces-3.3-demoapp-ftest-firefox-linux-jbossas-6.0.0.M1/lastCompletedBuild/testReport/
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11:57am
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lfryc
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balunasj: prabhat these tests are stable on 5.1.0.GA and Tomcat6, I can't find problems with app in AS6, the tests seems broken in locators
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11:57am
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balunasj
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The M1 version of AS has a hack in there so that the jopr app works with myfaces 1.2
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11:58am
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prabhat
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lfryc: hmmm it must be because of myfaces
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11:58am
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balunasj
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we need to target testing of jopr on AS-snapshot/M2 where the jopr app will be running with JSF2 and RF 3.3.3
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11:58am
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lfryc
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balunasj: prabhat Just give me a priority if we want to have stable resulsts also for 6.0.0.M1
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lfryc
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balunasj: I agree
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11:59am
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balunasj
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it is not perfect, but it is the chicken and egg problem
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alexsmirnov
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lfryc: JSF has no warranty about clientId format. JSF 2.0 generates different values so automated tests may look for wrong ID's
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prabhat
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balunasj: well, tets rely on locators of html elements and if two jsf impl do things differently, then either we write tests for both jsf or ignore
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12:00pm
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balunasj
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AS won't release JOPR with JSF 2 until it works with an RF release, so we will need to work with the snapshot .
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12:00pm
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prabhat
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balunasj: rewriting tests for Myfaces is pain
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12:00pm
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balunasj
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prabhat: no need for myfaces tests with jopr
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12:00pm
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prabhat
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balunasj: so for AS6, I would stick with manual testing..we don't have cycle to do full blown testing
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12:01pm
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balunasj
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in AS snapshot/M2 the target is RI 2
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12:01pm
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balunasj
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prabhat: that is fine + shelly is willing to assist.
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12:01pm
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balunasj
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lfryc: please talk to shelly and get updates from her.
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12:01pm
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balunasj
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I'll also chat with her
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12:02pm
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lfryc
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balunasj: ok
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12:02pm
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balunasj
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and see what is happening now
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12:02pm
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balunasj
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lets move on to the rhq issues
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12:02pm
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balunasj
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https://jira.jboss.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&&fixfor=-1&pid=12310341&resolution=-1&sorter/field=priority&sorter/order=DESC
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12:04pm
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: is this the same link you sent me yesterday?
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12:04pm
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: I thought it was just to the rhq issues
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12:04pm
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nbelaevski
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yes
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12:04pm
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: no, it was a link to all unscheduled
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12:04pm
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balunasj
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ah ok
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12:04pm
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balunasj
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looking...again
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12:05pm
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nbelaevski
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issues from RF-8269 to RF-8271
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12:05pm
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: thanks
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12:06pm
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balunasj
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2 are feature requests so unless there is a good reason can postpone
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12:06pm
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balunasj
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the other two - has anyone been able to review?
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12:06pm
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balunasj
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https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/RF-8269
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12:06pm
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balunasj
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https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/RF-8271
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balunasj
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8271 is about java docs and usability, but I don't feel we should change that atm.
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12:08pm
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balunasj
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it is a little late in the game
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12:09pm
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balunasj
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I think that https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/RF-8269 could be investigated to see what is appicable for 3.3.3
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12:09pm
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: thoughts^
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12:10pm
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nbelaevski
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I looked over it yesterday. I think we can prepare better workaround example for 3.3.x and consider the issues for 4.x
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12:10pm
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nbelaevski
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or leave the problem until 4.x as Ian has resolved the problem himself
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12:11pm
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: agreed - lets defer this and consider for 4.X
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12:11pm
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: ok
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12:11pm
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balunasj
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ok - I think that wraps this up - anything else for now
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12:12pm
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balunasj
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3 hours of meeting today is just warm up for 5 tomorrow
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12:12pm
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balunasj
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or should I say
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ilya_shaikovsky
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balunasj
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ok all thanks, and I'll post transcripts and minutes later today.