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balunasj_
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We are going to start the team meeting in a few minutes, the agenda is here - http://community.jboss.org/wiki/RichFacesTeamMeetingAgenda1-26-2010
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balunasj_
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ok all, lets get started - as I said the agenda is here - http://community.jboss.org/wiki/RichFacesTeamMeetingAgenda1-26-2010
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balunasj_
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The first thing I wanted to do is review the remaining RF jira's and talk with amarkhel_ about plans for resolution.
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balunasj_
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we are still planning on code freeze and build to QE by next Monday.
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balunasj_
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https://jira.jboss.org/jira/secure/BrowseVersion.jspa?id=12310341&versionId=12313806&showOpenIssuesOnly=true
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balunasj_
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amarkhel_: can you give us an update?
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amarkhel_
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one second
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balunasj_
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np
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amarkhel_
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balunasj: RF-8275 I am researching now
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balunasj_
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ok
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balunasj_
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any estimates on more info for it?
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amarkhel_
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balunasj: There are no major leaks
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11:11am
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amarkhel_
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balunasj: I found little leack and can fix that, but after rerender table memory grows and grows..
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11:11am
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amarkhel_
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balunasj: I think it is IE problem, but after meeting I will discuss this closely with Nick
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11:12am
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amarkhel_
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balunasj: RF-8175 I can close tomorrow and 2 isuesses from RFPL
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balunasj_
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ok - also just from past experience AIX can have weird mem issues with their JDK
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amarkhel_
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balunasj: RF-8281 and two isuueses with documentation - is rest
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amarkhel_
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balunasj: RF-8281 - I start fix tomorrow
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balunasj_
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what is the other doc issue?
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balunasj_
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I see only one in RF
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amarkhel_
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balunasj: that's all
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amarkhel_
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second..
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Marauder
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Hi Guys!
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balunasj_
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ok good - so except for mem leak issue when do you think you will finish up?
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balunasj_
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Marauder: Hi
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amarkhel_
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balunasj: sorry, RFPL-201 can be closed
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ccrouch
 
arrives late
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amarkhel_
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balunasj: yes, it is one doc issue^)
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balunasj_
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amarkhel_: ok np
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11:15am
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balunasj_
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ccrouch: np - have not got to admin console yet - we will cover this next
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11:15am
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balunasj_
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amarkhel_: k good - so except for mem leak issue when do you think you will finish up?
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11:15am
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amarkhel_
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balunasj: at Friday morning will be ok?
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balunasj_
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ok good
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amarkhel_
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ok
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11:16am
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balunasj_
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Lets touch base again at staff meeting, and let me know if it changes.
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amarkhel_
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ok
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balunasj_
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we should be able to get something to QE early next week then.
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amarkhel_
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np
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balunasj_
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ok lets move on to JOPR topics since ccrouch and OndejZizka have joined us
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11:17am
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balunasj_
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then we'll go back to agenda.
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balunasj_
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lfryc: are you here as well?
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lfryc
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balunasj_: sure
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balunasj_
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ok cool
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11:18am
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balunasj_
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so what is the latest on admin console and getting a testing env running for RF 3.3.3, JSF 2 and admin console?
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11:18am
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balunasj_
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last week I talked with shelly, but not much had changed?
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rruss
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balunasj_: I believe the problem is not with AIX, but IBM's JDK and how they lay memory out.  Had a *lot* of problems with that in my previous job.
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ccrouch
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balunasj_: she has the console deploying into AS6
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balunasj_
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rruss: me too
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balunasj_
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ccrouch: with JSF 2 ( not myfaces ) right?
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ccrouch
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balunasj_: correct
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balunasj_
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lfryc: have you had any communications with her?
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balunasj_
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OndejZizka: were you able to run any test suites with this setup?
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lfryc
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balunasj_: Shelly has problems with duplicated ids in EDT with RF snapshots you provided her, but I couldn't reproduce it and she also cannot reproduce that more..
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lfryc
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(Shelly had...)
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balunasj_
 
thinking last I knew shelly had some things to commit to svn.
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balunasj_
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lfryc: yes I remember the emails - it seemed like you guys were able to move past this
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ccrouch
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balunasj_: its my understanding the duplicate id stuff is not a problem any longer
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balunasj_
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ok
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balunasj_
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so lfryc does this mean you have been able to test the admin console?
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balunasj_
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with 3.3.3?
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ccrouch
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there are a couple of bugs she's raised, e.g. https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/EMBJOPR-281 but nothing that i see which is RF specific
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balunasj_
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I would prefer some smoke testing before we deliver CR1 to QE
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ccrouch
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unless she has raised stuff directly in your jira
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balunasj_
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ccrouch: not that I know of
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lfryc
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balunasj_: I was able to test last week with 3.3.3 with binaries what Shelly provided to me, but I haven't more information about automated testing
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balunasj_
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OndejZizka: ping - and updates from your side?
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balunasj_
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ccrouch: OndejZizka : also what is the latest with your requirements for a seam release to fix some issues?
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lfryc
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balunasj_: OndejZizka doesn't answer to pings for a longer time
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balunasj_
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ok
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ccrouch
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he works late, EST time
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balunasj_
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ok
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balunasj_
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so lfryc do you have plans to work on this this week?
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ccrouch
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balunasj_: i'm not expecting another Seam release before AS6 M2
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balunasj_
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ccrouch: ok - I had heard there was a need for a seam release to fix some templates or something like that
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lfryc
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balunasj_: what you specifically mean? automated testing or smoke testing?
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balunasj_
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smoke testing this week, but for next week I'd like to see the test suite running
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balunasj_
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I do not want to release unless we have admin console tested since 50% of reason for release was for there support.
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balunasj_
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ccrouch: that is why we have a time crunch
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lfryc
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balunasj_: the better will be let EmbJopr QA test that since they better understand what needs to be test, but I can provide them a support or also I can test it at my own
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balunasj_
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lfryc: yes agree - and OndejZizka is the contact point for that correct?
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lfryc
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balunasj_: I will ask Ondra if he will have time for that
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lfryc
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balunasj_: yes
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ccrouch
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shelly is really the main contact for that
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balunasj_
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her hard drive crashed and waiting for replacement
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ccrouch
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doh
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balunasj_
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lfryc: can you continue to lead up this effort on the RF QE side
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balunasj_
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follow up with OndejZizka, shelly, and ccrouch as needed
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balunasj_
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and let us all know if we can't get smoke testing by end of week, and at least some automated testing, or more manual testing next week by admin console QE.
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balunasj_
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lfryc: if you need assistance please let me and/or prabhat know
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lfryc
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balunasj_: sure
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balunasj_
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ccrouch: any other issues from you side on this?  Do you think this is possible?
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prabhat
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balunasj_: (readit a bit) just an FYI..with 3.3.1.SP1 and things we have to verify manually, we are really pushing for other testing until SP1 is done
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balunasj_
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that is ok, we have a two week qe cycle planned for Cr1
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balunasj_
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and jopr testing is a blocker for this.
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prabhat
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balunasj_: yes..i totally agree with that. Just wanted to help clarify on things that can be done this week
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ccrouch
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balunasj_: shelly will be continuing to test the console this week in order to try to get confidence before the JBAS6 M2 component freeze which is this friday
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balunasj_
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if we have to slip we can, we just will have very little dev support during that time, because the team will be moving on.
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balunasj_
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obviously if required we'll refocus.
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balunasj_
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ccrouch: we will not have our CR1 release by then
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balunasj_
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that means that you will need to ship with BETA1
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balunasj_
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how long out is AS6 M3?
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balunasj_
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also N.B. that this is the last 3.3.3 release ( once we GA )
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balunasj_
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so any changes you need before RF 4.0 must me in this release.
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rruss
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balunasj: from the looks of the last community schedule, it appears that Jason is trying to get something out every month.
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balunasj_
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ccrouch: comments on points above?
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balunasj_
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rruss: ok
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balunasj_
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good
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balunasj_
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so it might not be too big a deal, but again any changes needed must be in this release - we'll not have another in 3.3.X
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rruss
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balunasj: https://docspace.corp.redhat.com/clearspace/docs/DOC-30796 shows M2 in Feb and M3 in March
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balunasj_
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excellent I will bookmark that one
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balunasj_
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while we are wait for any comments for ccrouch , ilya_shaikovsky what are you thoughts on the RFPL issues assigned to you?
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balunasj_
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and amarkhel_ do you feel you will be able to update the 3.3.3/JSF2 wiki page
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balunasj_
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?
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balunasj_
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Marauder: sorry you nick did not change
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balunasj_
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Marauder: see above question?
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amarkhel_
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balunasj: I prefer that Ilya will do it:)
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Marauder
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Marauder, looking..
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Marauder
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sorry but it logged at work
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Marauder
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so I tried but was kicked
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Marauder
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balunasj_
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amarkhel_: I'm assuming you will be able to assist with details though?
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amarkhel_
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balunasj: sure
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balunasj_
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prabhat: lfryc : besides jopr issues are there any concerns or questions for 3.3.3.CR1 or are you just waiting for QE drop?
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prabhat
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balunasj_: waiting for SP1 to be over AND CR1 drop
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Marauder
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should be done by the end of the week including some additions to JSF2vs3.3.3 page
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Marauder
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balunasj_, ^
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balunasj_
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Marauder: do you mind if I assign RFPL-212 to you?
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Marauder
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sure
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balunasj_
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prabhat: ok understood
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balunasj_
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Marauder: ok
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balunasj_
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I'll follow up with sean about the final doc issue as well.
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balunasj_
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ccrouch: no comments?
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balunasj_
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the last item on the agenda is JBIDE-5646
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balunasj_
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as an update this is an issue with JBoss tool and integration with the photoalbum app
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balunasj_
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in the jira tools QE added a patch for photoalbum that should make the integration easier for tools.
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nbelaevski
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balunasj_: I've talked with Andrei - he'll take a look
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balunasj_
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nbelaevski: ok great
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ccrouch
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balunasj_: so about the Seam release, i dont expect the console to change its seam release between now and M2
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balunasj_
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amarkhel_: please create a place holder RF issue for JBIDE-5646 investigation for 3.3.3.CR1 release
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ccrouch
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about the RF beta release in M2, that sounds fine to me, but you'll have to double check with bstansberry, but i dont think he should object. The only thing you cant have are snapshots
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balunasj_
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ccrouch: ok, and are there any changes expected in admin console for later milestone releases?
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amarkhel_
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balunasj:ok
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balunasj_
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i.e. if there are changes that break because of RF we will not have future 3.3.X releases
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balunasj_
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amarkhel_: thanks
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ccrouch
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balunasj_: changes in the console for later AS milestone releases, yes i would expect so.
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balunasj_
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ccrouch: is there a plan or schedule for any of those?
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ccrouch
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no not at the moment
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balunasj_
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ccrouch: it is important to make sure any changes do not required fixes/patches to 3.3.X.
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balunasj_
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ccrouch: ok
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ccrouch
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its not clear exactly what they would be right now
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ccrouch
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balunasj_: right, its my understanding console changes would be more based around building on top of new features in the profile service
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balunasj_
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ok - so when you plan on making changes or hear about them, please make sure to express that any major changes in structure or component usage may result in issues.
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ccrouch
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rather than updates to usage of RF, but those may be a side-effect
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ccrouch
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balunasj_: will do
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balunasj_
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thanks - just wanted everyone on same page.
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balunasj_
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ccrouch: thanks for joining I think that is it for now.
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ccrouch
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btw balunasj_ did you see https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/RF-8305
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balunasj_
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all: anything else I'm missing or we need to discuss for 3.3.3.X release.
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balunasj_
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ccrouch: looking...
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ccrouch
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we hit that in JBoss ON yesterday
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balunasj_
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ccrouch: have not reviewed yet, but did see some of these come in.
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balunasj_
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Marauder, nbelaevski : any chance to take a look at this?
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balunasj_
 
its ok if not
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nbelaevski
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balunasj_: was looking at this right now - Ian wrote it's regression
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balunasj_
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ok
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balunasj_
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let me know what you think if you can - I have a backlog of emails and jiras to review.
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balunasj_
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ccrouch: we'll review and if it is a regression will likely fix for 3.3.3
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balunasj_
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anything else from anyone?
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