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balunasj_
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Agenda posted here  - http://community.jboss.org/wiki/RichFacesTeamMeetingAgenda2-2-2010
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nbelaevski
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balunasj_: hi Jay
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alexsmirnov
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Hi all
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abelevich
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hi
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pyaschenko
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hi
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balunasj_
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Hi all
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ppitonak
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hi
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balunasj_
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We'll get started in just a minute - I would like some time for people to join
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balunasj_
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Ok lets get started
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balunasj_
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The first thing was just a quick announcement - http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/ModernJavaTechnologiesWorkshopFeaturingRichFacesTeam
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balunasj_
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nbelaevski: and Marauder|away will be speaking this friday
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balunasj_
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!!
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echelog
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balunasj_: Error: "!" is not a valid command.
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Marauder|away is now known as Marauder.
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Marauder is now known as ilya_shaikovsky.
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ilya_shaikovsky
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Hello all!
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nbelaevski
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ilya_shaikovsky: hi
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balunasj_
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It sounds like a neat day of talks
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balunasj_
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Hopefully we can get an update from them next week and see how it went
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balunasj_
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ok so moving on to the 3.3.3.CR1 release
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balunasj_
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All of the RF jira's are completed
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balunasj_
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and Konstantin1 should be working on the QE release artifacts
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balunasj_
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Konstantin1: how is that going?
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amarkhel
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hi
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balunasj_
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hi amarkhel
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balunasj_
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Just asked Konstantin1 how the tag and release process was going.
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amarkhel
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ok
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balunasj_
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amarkhel: I saw you nbelaevski and Konstantin1 completed the jira's for RF
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amarkhel
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balunasj:yes, but I forgot to tell Konstantin, that are all bugs fixed
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balunasj_
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amarkhel:
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balunasj_
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ok
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balunasj_
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Konstantin1: ^
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balunasj_
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prabhat: Konstantin1 : once the tag is complete could we create a hudson build for the dist as we did for the internal release?
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amarkhel
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Konstantin1: You can start the build process, sorry for inconvience
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Konstantin1
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balunasj_: I will start build procedure now.
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balunasj_
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Konstantin1: ok
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balunasj_
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once the tagging is complete perhaps we can create a hudson build to help you
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balunasj_
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I know the building can take a long time from Minsk right - the uploading etc....
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balunasj_
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prabhat: Would another build like that be hard to setup?
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Konstantin1
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I build on remote PC in Concord.
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balunasj_
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Konstantin1: ok so it might not be a big deal for this one.
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balunasj_
 
still something to thing about....
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prabhat
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balunasj_: not hard for me to setup but I don't have other locations to put artifacts
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Konstantin1
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But on Hudson will better
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balunasj_
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prabhat: hmmm
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balunasj_
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so it would overwrite the previous one?
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prabhat
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balunasj_: if 3.3.1 is not needed, i can reuse that location in lab
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balunasj_
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prabhat: I will have that uploaded shortly from the zip that you provided
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balunasj_
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prabhat: but I do not want it removed yet.
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balunasj_
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Konstantin1: please ping us when the tag is finished.
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Konstantin1
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ok
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prabhat
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balunasj_: yup
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balunasj_
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If I have the artifacts uploaded from the previous internal build perhaps we can just reuse
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balunasj_
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if not for this release Konstantin1 can just use the machine in concord
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prabhat
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balunasj_: if other projects demand, it might a be good use case to have a separate location which you can use for release binaries
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prabhat
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balunasj_: but i don't have other storage besides the one I used
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balunasj_
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prabhat: understood - this may be an issue for future internal builds, and the 4.0 builds
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prabhat
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balunasj_: ya
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balunasj_
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both of which will be built in hudson
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balunasj_
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prabhat: ok something to think on for ALPHA2 timeframe
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prabhat
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balunasj_: ya..it's mostly about finding storage which people have easy access to
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balunasj_
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prabhat: could it be in the workspace itself?
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prabhat
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balunasj_: nope..not  a good idea
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balunasj_
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These builds will only be built when release artifacts are wanted
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balunasj_
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ok
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balunasj_
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amarkhel: What are you plans for this - http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/ModernJavaTechnologiesWorkshopFeaturingRichFacesTeam
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balunasj_
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sorry wrong link
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balunasj_
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https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/RFPL-324
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balunasj_
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this will require an update to the tag
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amarkhel
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balunasj: I am working on that isuue right now
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alexsmirnov
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balunasj_: In Brno, we discussed to use hudson for whole release process. It has special features that can create release with proper tag from Maven project.
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balunasj_
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alexsmirnov: agreed - that is part of the assembly tasks for ALPHA2
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balunasj_
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Ideally I want to be able to have hudson perform the whole release process - although tagging automatically seems dangerous
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balunasj_
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amarkhel: ok please let Konstantin1 when you are finished so he can update, or tag the file
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amarkhel
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balunasj: It is 5-6 h need to complete this task
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prabhat
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balunasj_: hudson can do the whole thing even now..if there were more stable place for holding the artifacts
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amarkhel
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balunasj: Should we wait or start build now&
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balunasj_
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All of the remaining RFPL issues are either QE, or site/wiki related - so won't effect tag.
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balunasj_
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amarkhel: hmmm - the problem is that either way the build will need to be rerun for this because it is an update to pom.xml file.
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balunasj_
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prabhat: Is that something you can take an action item on
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balunasj_
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prabhat: I think hudson/QE servers need a good place for artifacts like this.
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balunasj_
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prabhat: what would be needed.
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amarkhel
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balunasj: so, is RFPL-324 so critical?
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balunasj_
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Konstantin1: how much work is needed for pre-tagging work, and for tagging itself.
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prabhat
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balunasj_: i would rather not..I think it will be better if Rodney were to bring this up with Mike. you know what I mean
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balunasj_
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rruss: ^
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prabhat
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balunasj_: as this probably applies to other projects as well
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balunasj_
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I see what you mean
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balunasj_
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it does.
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Konstantin1
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balunasj_: 1h
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balunasj_
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prabhat: can you create a JBQA jira to cover the requirements and info so rruss can reference that.
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prabhat
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balunasj_: ok
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balunasj_
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Konstantin1: ok please start that.
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balunasj_
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as you said
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balunasj_
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I'll review amarkhel updates for the root pom.xml with nbelaevski and decide if we can just add to GA or if we should update tag and rebuild.
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amarkhel
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balunasj: ok
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nbelaevski
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balunasj_: ok
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balunasj_
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ilya_shaikovsky: you have several site update as well - what are your thoughts on those?
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ilya_shaikovsky
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project site updates will takes less than haf an hour
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ilya_shaikovsky
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but I still not finished with wiki (RFPL tasks for CR1)
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ilya_shaikovsky
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because of different other tasks and demo for Friday creation..
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balunasj_
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ilya_shaikovsky: np - we have time
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balunasj_
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ilya_shaikovsky: just wanted to touch base on them
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ilya_shaikovsky
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need about half a day on that(at least to review and add major things missed)
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balunasj_
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prabhat: it sounds like we'll have a 3.3.3.CR1 build for you tomorrow at some point - will that work for you
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balunasj_
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prabhat
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balunasj_: yup..we would like to get rid of ASAP as welll
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balunasj_
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prabhat: how long do you think you will need to test this release - please keep in mind this is hopefully the last release before the final one.
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balunasj_
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with luck we will not have any updated to CR1 before release
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prabhat
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balunasj_: ya..that's the problem..if a tag needs to be updated then it becomes hard to say
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prabhat
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balunasj_: let's shoot for a week.
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balunasj_
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ok so we'll review again next week, and likely give extra time until end of next week if it would help with extra testing.
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balunasj_
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By next friday I'd like to have the release hosted, site updated, and ready for release the following Monday.
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balunasj_
 
assuming things go smoothly
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prabhat
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balunasj_: by Next Friday..I am sure that's more than enough unless commits were done while people were on high
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balunasj_
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hehe
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balunasj_
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yeah - that is the "assuming things go smoothly" part
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balunasj_
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nbelaevski: alexsmirnov ilya_shaikovsky : sound good plan for you guys.
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balunasj_
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should allow dev to focus nearly 100% on 4.0.
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ilya_shaikovsky
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yes.. sounds good
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nbelaevski
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balunasj_: ok, good
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balunasj_
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ok great.
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balunasj_
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so the last 3.3.3.CR1 topic I wanted to discuss is JOPR
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balunasj_
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lfryc: will you be able to get these tests done ( with jopr QE help ) by next week?
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lfryc
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balunasj_: Yeah, I have arranged some smoke testing by OndejZizka once we will have done initial testing on CR1
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balunasj_
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lfryc: ok good - any updated, comments, or concerns there?
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lfryc
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balunasj_: Shelly announced that the automated testing can be available soon after completing maven-cargo-plugin for AS6
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lfryc
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balunasj_: but new blockers can be found then
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balunasj_
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lfryc: ok good - that is why it is important to get as much testing done as possible quick.  If we need to make updates I want to get them in asap so we don't delay CR1 too much.
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lfryc
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balunasj_: sure
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balunasj_
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ok great
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balunasj_
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anything else for 3.3.3.CR1?
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prabhat
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balunasj_: not from me..can not wait to be over with 3.3.3
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balunasj_
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agreed!
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balunasj_
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onward to 4.0 then.
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prabhat
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balunasj_: once you have the main jira, shoot a mail and i will create subtasks
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balunasj_
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prabhat: yup
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balunasj_
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I just wish jira allowed subtasks to have subtasks
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balunasj_
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GRRRRR
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balunasj_
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anyway I'll create that today and let you know.
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balunasj_
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So on to 4.0So I apologize I
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balunasj_
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So I apologize, I have been swamped with other things and have not compiled all of the project plans from the previous meetings.
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amitev
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we're using jira4 here
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amitev
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and still don't allow subtasks of subtasks
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balunasj_
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amitev: that is enough to pull my hair out - please don't tell me that.
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balunasj_
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My updated plan is to work on the project plan today and most of tomorrow.
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amitev
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http://jira.atlassian.com/browse/JRA-4446
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amitev
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just look at the vote count!
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balunasj_
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By thursdays staff meeting I hope to have something for review and will write up a blog and update wiki pages with the info Friday.
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balunasj_
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I am using openProj and basing the updates on the meetings, jira, and other info.
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balunasj_
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I had hoped to have something done for this meeting, but it was not meant to be.....
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balunasj_
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does anyone have any comments, questions, etc... for 4.0.0.ALPHA2 ?
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abelevich
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balunasj: no  I haven't yet ...
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balunasj_
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ok then - I think that is it for now then
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balunasj_
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Thanks all!
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balunasj_
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Please ping me if anything comes up?
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