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balunasj
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ok I think that is everyone
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11:03am
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balunasj
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Agenda is here - http://community.jboss.org/wiki/RichFacesTeamMeetingAgenda2-9-2010
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11:04am
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balunasj
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lets start with a summary of the talks and presentations that Nick and Ilya gave last Friday.
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11:04am
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Marauder
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balunasj, I believe you saw our overview on email
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11:04am
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Marauder is now known as ilya_shaikovsky.
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11:05am
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balunasj
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yup - do you plan on making a blog for this?
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11:06am
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balunasj
 
thinking the summary would not just be for me ....
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11:06am
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balunasj
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11:06am
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ilya_shaikovsky
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sure just sent this as initial overview.. if looks good will wait for tommorow (as still not have pictures) and post
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11:07am
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balunasj
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ok that is fine
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11:07am
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balunasj
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lets move on then
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11:07am
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alexsmirnov
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Nick, Ilya : can you summarize complains and feature requests ?
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11:07am
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balunasj
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3.3.3.CR1
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11:07am
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balunasj
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https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/RF/fixforversion/12313806
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11:07am
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balunasj
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we've had progress, but some more issues have come in.
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11:08am
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balunasj
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amarkhel: how are things looking and have you had time to review any of the new item?
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11:08am
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nbelaevski
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alexsmirnov: we've summarized all questions in Ilya's letter
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11:08am
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ilya_shaikovsky
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alexsmirnov, most wanted things.. more control with API, more optimization of performance and more compatibility with third-parties..
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11:08am
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ilya_shaikovsky
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yes.. all this written there
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11:08am
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nbelaevski
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alexsmirnov: we are translating slides into english - I can send link to russion slides
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11:09am
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abelevich
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nbelaevski: pls send this slides for all minsk team
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11:09am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: you that is what I was looking for as well - it is in ilya's letter.  Before we post to a blog we should have answers or comments for the concerns.
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11:10am
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amarkhel
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balunasj: I am revert changes from photoalbum patch now, RF-8351 RF-8357 -already fixed(just need to check and commit) unvestigated issue are RF-8359 and RF-8356
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11:10am
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ilya_shaikovsky
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abelevich, after will translate
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11:11am
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amarkhel
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balunasj: * univestigated
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11:11am
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balunasj
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Have you updated the photoalbum patch including the jira from tools?
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11:11am
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amarkhel
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balunasj: in process
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11:11am
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abelevich
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ilya_shaikovsky: russian will be fine too
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11:11am
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balunasj
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ok
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11:12am
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balunasj
 
reviewing jiras and comments
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11:13am
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balunasj
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Can RF-8196 be postponed?
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11:13am
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balunasj
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if just a demo issue I think yes
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11:14am
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balunasj
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amarkhel: your comment in the jira
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11:14am
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balunasj
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amarkhel: sounds like it is fixed, but I don't understand the rest of the comment - can you explain?
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11:15am
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: comment is definitely from another issue
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11:15am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: ok - I'm going to delete it then.
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11:15am
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balunasj
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it is confusing.
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11:15am
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: sure, please
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11:15am
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balunasj
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done
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11:15am
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amarkhel
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balunasj: issue isn't fixed and reopened, it's my mistake - comment from another issue
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11:16am
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balunasj
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amarkhel: either way though this is a minor issue - I don't want to delay any longer for CR1
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11:16am
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balunasj
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please update to future.
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11:17am
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amarkhel
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balunasj: agree
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11:17am
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balunasj
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amarkhel:
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11:18am
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balunasj
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ok
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11:18am
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balunasj
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When do you think you'll be able get to the other uninvestigated issues?
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11:18am
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balunasj
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amarkhel: ^
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11:20am
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amarkhel
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balunasj: I'll investigate rest issue when complete with photoalbum patch
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11:20am
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balunasj
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amarkhel: in one of your emails you mention having konstantin start the tagging process - we should wait because at the very least the fileupload may be an issue to be fixed
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11:20am
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balunasj
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I would rather wait a day then need to retag again.
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11:21am
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amarkhel
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balunasj: agree, second issue with menuItem is also critical
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11:21am
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balunasj
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amarkhel: just made it critical
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11:22am
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amarkhel
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ok
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11:22am
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balunasj
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please feel free to bump up issue priority if you think it is needed.
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11:22am
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balunasj
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so you think by end of the day you'll be wrapped up with other issues?
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11:23am
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balunasj
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and be able to investigate tomorrow.
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11:25am
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balunasj
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amarkhel: ^
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11:25am
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amarkhel
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balunasj:yes
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11:26am
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balunasj
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amarkhel: ok - lets shoot for a Thursday retag and build - obviously it will depend on results of investigation.
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11:26am
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amarkhel
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balunasj:ok
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11:26am
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balunasj
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lfryc: ppitonak : I'm assuming you guys have enough to do between now and then?
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11:26am
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ppitonak
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balunasj: yes, we do
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11:27am
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balunasj
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ok good
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11:27am
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balunasj
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lets move on
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11:27am
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balunasj
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to QE
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11:27am
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balunasj
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any udpates or comments?
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11:27am
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ppitonak
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balunasj: nbelaevski I need someone to look at RF-8275 and RF-8216
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11:27am
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ppitonak
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I wasn't able to reproduce
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11:28am
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ppitonak
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or... I didn't see any difference between old and new version
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11:28am
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lfryc
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balunasj: we are waiting for retagging - but I can also do some update about EmbJopr
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11:28am
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balunasj
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ppitonak: so you need to know how to test to make sure the issue is gone - right?
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11:28am
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nbelaevski
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ppitonak: Andrei can take a look
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11:28am
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ppitonak
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balunasj: right
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11:29am
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nbelaevski
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amarkhel: can you please check with Pavel? ^
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11:29am
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balunasj
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agree with nbelaevski - amarkhel you just need to point them in the right direction for verification testing
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11:29am
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amarkhel
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one minute please
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11:29am
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balunasj
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we don't need to reopen yet.
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11:29am
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amarkhel
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I am review issueses
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11:29am
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balunasj
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k
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11:30am
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amarkhel
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balunasj: I can help with RF-8275 but RF-8216 fixed by Alex K
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11:31am
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nbelaevski
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amarkhel: it shouldn't be hard to verify this
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11:31am
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amarkhel
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nbelaevski: if you help me I agree
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11:32am
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nbelaevski
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amarkhel: np
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11:32am
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balunasj
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ok good
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11:33am
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balunasj
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lfryc: can you give an update on jopr
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11:33am
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lfryc
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balunasj: EmbJopr will be released with 3.3.3.BETA1 for AS6 M2 as Shelly said me
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11:33am
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balunasj
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ccrouch entered the file upload issue that is going to be addressed.
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11:33am
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balunasj
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lfryc: yup
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11:34am
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lfryc
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balunasj: OndejZizka is currently testing manually the admin-console on latest AS6, results will be available in a hour (he will us you now via email)
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11:34am
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lfryc
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*(he will let us know via email)
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11:34am
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balunasj
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lfryc: the issue is dates - they could not get in CR1 for M2
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11:34am
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balunasj
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but they are planning  M3 for one month.
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11:34am
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balunasj
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they are shifting to timeboxed release like we will for 4.0 betas
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11:35am
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balunasj
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lfryc: anything from you side to report for this testing, or just wanting on andrej?
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11:35am
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lfryc
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balunasj: Shelly was able to setup job for EmbJopr automated testing, but it is currently failing mostly
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balunasj
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ondrej?
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lfryc
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balunasj: I smoke tested console as we did initial testing.. but I can't test it as widely as Ondrej can
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11:36am
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balunasj
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sure
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11:36am
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balunasj
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ok
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11:36am
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balunasj
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lfryc: ppitonak : estimates on time required to test retag of CR1
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11:36am
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balunasj
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?
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11:37am
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lfryc
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balunasj: 1 day and half?
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11:37am
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balunasj
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ok so we may still be able to release early next week.
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11:37am
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balunasj
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that would be good.
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11:38am
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balunasj
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that means that ilya_shaikovsky and I should still have the site and blog announcements drafted.
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11:38am
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balunasj
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ilya_shaikovsky: sound good?
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11:38am
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ilya_shaikovsky
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sure
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11:38am
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balunasj
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ok
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11:39am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: you were able to review the portal related issues found.
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11:39am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: and nothing that seemed critical for PBR?
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11:39am
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alexsmirnov
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not yet, I'm going to do that today.
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11:40am
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alexsmirnov
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Yesterday I was working on facelets taglib generation.
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11:40am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: ok - how much time % do you see with portal bridge work in the next couple of weeks?
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11:44am
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alexsmirnov
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I plan to spend 3 full working days days on portal this week, up to 50% next.
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11:44am
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balunasj
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ouch ok
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11:45am
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balunasj
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as we discussed please let us know anything might effect RF asap so we can get in any changes.
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11:45am
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balunasj
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So lets move on to 4.0
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11:45am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: and I have been working on the project plan, compiling the notes, estimates, and plans from the meetings a couple of weeks ago.
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11:46am
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balunasj
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The dates are going a little longer that that we hoped so we may be adjust priorities
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11:46am
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balunasj
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some of the areas we need to adjust are CDK, core, and client lib.
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11:47am
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balunasj
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We need to make sure that any tasks in them are required to support ALPHA2's other requirements.
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11:47am
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balunasj
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I added a comment to the agenda from a mtg nbelaevski and I had this morning.
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11:48am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: the jira's listed there we think can be pushed off for a bete release
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11:48am
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balunasj
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beta
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11:48am
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balunasj
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because they do not directly support the component requirements.
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11:48am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: can you take a minute and review those and let us know what you think?
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11:49am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: I know you also wanted to be involved with skinning and had some input for both examples, and iteration components.
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11:49am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: We need to wrap up CDK asap for A2 so that we can have you work on those other areas.
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alexsmirnov
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Yes, I'm really tired by CDK development
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: hehe
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11:52am
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balunasj
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so anything we can trim - is one less task for CDK and the faster we can get your input and help in other areas.
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11:52am
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balunasj
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were you able to get through the jira list?
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11:52am
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alexsmirnov
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With generated taglib, we will have whole library done, though it would take a while to fix all issues.
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11:53am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: the main CDK jira is https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/RF-7725
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11:53am
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balunasj
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is there more completed here than it shows?
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11:53am
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alexsmirnov
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Ok, I already closed finished issues and will reschedule rameining
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11:53am
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balunasj
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if there is something we don't need for A2 please shift it.
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11:54am
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balunasj
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ok
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11:54am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: nbelaevski added a couple this morning, like functions support
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11:55am
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balunasj
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that will be needed, but hopefully not much left.
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11:55am
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alexsmirnov
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Tests generation, documentation and some other are not necessary for A2
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11:55am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: It might be good to have someone else do the development testing, and finding fixing initial issues.
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11:55am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: it would free you up and give someone else a chance to learn internals of CDK.
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: nbelaevski : thoughts?
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: agree
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11:59am
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alexsmirnov
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alex already did some parts of CDK, so he knows how it's working.
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: ok that is good - he may be the right person for this then.
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abelevich
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I am trying using CDK in development the main problems is what I didn't find any up to date articles  about it featurees
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: before starting portal bridge work - please review jira's for posting to Bx and in possible update the docs so other can understand current usage
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: do you think that will be possible?
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12:03pm
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alexsmirnov
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http://community.jboss.org/wiki/RichFaces40ComponentsDevelopmentKit is a starting point for CDK, it describes most of its features.
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12:03pm
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alexsmirnov
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Most of articles are up to date.
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12:04pm
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balunasj
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abelevich: can you please email or post a forum with concerns or issues with CDK and docs.  either alexsmirnov or alex k will take a look.
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12:05pm
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: do you think you will be able to review the jira's and write up some jira's for alex K to work on so we can both give you time for portal, and get you on to other tasks asap
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12:05pm
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balunasj
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?
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12:05pm
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alexsmirnov
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JIRA feature requests/issues would be even more helpful.
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12:05pm
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: fair point
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12:06pm
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alexsmirnov
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balunasj: Yes, I can.
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12:06pm
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abelevich
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balunasj: ok I'll try use CDK features in the dataTables development and mail/post the results
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12:06pm
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: thanks let me and nbelaevski know when done and we'll take a look
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12:07pm
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: we'll also need estimates for the remaining tasks.
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12:07pm
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balunasj
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abelevich: thanks, also if you are sure it is an issue or missing feature you need add a jira
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12:07pm
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: anything else for this discussion for now?
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12:08pm
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abelevich
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balunasj: ok
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12:08pm
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: nope
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balunasj
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alright all - thanks
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12:09pm
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balunasj
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I'll write up minutes, and get back to the project plan
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balunasj
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