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balunasj
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Hi all
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balunasj
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Here is the agenda for today http://community.jboss.org/wiki/RichFacesTeamMeetingAgenda2-23-2010
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balunasj
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We'll give people a couple min to join
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nbelaevski
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hello all
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11:02am
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Marauder|away
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hello All!
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Marauder|away is now known as Marauder.
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Marauder is now known as ilya_shaikovsky.
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nbelaevski
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ilya_shaikovsky: hi Ilya
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abelevich
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hi
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11:05am
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balunasj
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ok all lets get started
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11:05am
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prabhat
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hello everybody
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11:05am
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al80
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My AjaxSingle request, is posting the whole form. The forms has a lot of fields. Is possible to post only the ajaxSingle element instead of the whole form?
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balunasj
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Hi prabhat
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11:05am
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prabhat
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balunasj: hello
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11:06am
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balunasj
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al80: we are about to start our team meeting - could you post to forums, or wait on hour ?
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11:06am
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balunasj
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al80: we want to help, but need to move through agenda.
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11:07am
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al80
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ok
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11:07am
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balunasj
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al80: thanks I appreciate it
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11:08am
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balunasj
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so 3.3.3.CR1 is released, and there has been some good feedback already in forums
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balunasj
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and jira
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11:08am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov
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al80: short answer - ajax single works on the server-side only, so whole form is always sent.
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11:09am
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balunasj
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We'll keep an eye out for any new issues that we MUST address in GA.
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11:09am
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balunasj
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I want to stress that any changes in the final release really need to be important
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prabhat
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balunasj: yes, the less change in GA, the better it is for everybody. Mostly me
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11:10am
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balunasj
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Also as a side note - we may need to change from GA to "Final"
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11:10am
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balunasj
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prabhat: agreed
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11:10am
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balunasj
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one general comment from many is full JSF 2 support - so the quicker we can all focus on 4.0 the better
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11:12am
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balunasj
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The general plan for the final release is in the agenda
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balunasj
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2 weeks to get community feedback
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balunasj
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1 week dev ( with limited issues should be ok ).
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balunasj
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1 week QE with parallel release prep.
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11:13am
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balunasj
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that puts the release in mid march, and frees up next two weeks for 4.0 dev
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11:14am
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balunasj
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I'd like to take a quick look at the current jiras
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11:15am
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balunasj
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including the infamous JBIDE-4500
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11:15am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: Konstantin1 : did you determine if that made it into the CR1 release?
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11:17am
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alexsmirnov
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I guess so. I checked in fix couple of hours before CR1 build.
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balunasj
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ok
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11:18am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: either way it will be in GA - prabhat can you coordinate with tools QE to make sure they check that with the GA build?
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11:19am
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prabhat
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balunasj: ok..is there a corresponding jira in RF that you know of? I think there is
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balunasj
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prabhat: It will be moved - it has made a twisted travel between JBIDE, JBSEAM, and RF
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balunasj
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Dan needs to move the jira to RF
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balunasj
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then alexsmirnov will resolve
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11:21am
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balunasj
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ok other open issues for GA
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balunasj
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https://jira.jboss.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&&fixfor=12314120&pid=12310341&resolution=-1&sorter/field=updated&sorter/order=DESC
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prabhat
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balunasj: ok since jira will be there as part of GA release notes, I wont forget to verify with tools folks
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balunasj
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prabhat: great thanks
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11:22am
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balunasj
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for jira's we don't need to go through each, just scan and see if there are any we should discuss now
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11:23am
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balunasj
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RF-8425
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balunasj
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is this really a feature request, or perf issue that needs investigation?
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alexsmirnov
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I just checked CR1 tag, it does not contain JBIDE-4500 fix
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balunasj
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ok - tag must have been made just before - np
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nbelaevski
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right, the build was created 14 Feb and the fix was checked in 16th
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11:26am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: you assigned RF-8425 - is it just for investigation - or what are your thoughts?
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11:27am
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nbelaevski
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RF-8425 is not a bug, but makes sense to do this fix as this should improve performance and the changes are going to be rvery limited
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: ok agreed
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balunasj
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https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/RF-8424 seems to be user scheduled ( reminds me to set permission scheme for Jira )
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alexsmirnov
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It seems that reporter already has a fix, we have to ask him for patch. It would be an easiest way.
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nbelaevski
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yes, RF-8424 should be removed from 3.3.3 scope
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nbelaevski
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done
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: commented in jira
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: ok good
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alexsmirnov
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balunasj: me too:-)
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balunasj
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RF-8357 - is a carry over from CR1
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: I believe you said the fix was trivial
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: yes, it should be
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balunasj
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the other look like either some carry over from CR1, or a few items for investigation
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nbelaevski
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Lukas has already posted the fix
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balunasj
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prabhat
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balunasj: nbelaevski it's matter of getting grounded or touching the ceiling
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nbelaevski
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prabhat: ok, thanks
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balunasj
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ok
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: do you have any concerns or questions with the plans for the final release?
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balunasj
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markhel is not on - otherwise I'd ask him
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nbelaevski
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https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/RF-8435
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nbelaevski
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new issue for JSF 2.0
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balunasj
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yes - I remember seeing that - what are your thoughts?
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nbelaevski
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also I want to ask alexsmirnov to look at: https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/RF-8432
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amarkhel
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hi
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nbelaevski
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I think we need to fix
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: yup - that is assigned to alexsmirnov - alexsmirnov should that be a problem for you to look at?
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balunasj
 
nbelaevski: you and I should review the other unscheduled items as well.
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nbelaevski
 
agrees
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: how do you think you will be able to get the client-id
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alexsmirnov
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balunasj: I've answered on forum and JIRA about workaround. The issue seems as side effect of tree traversal optimization that was done for 3.3.2 release
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balunasj
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prabhat: please make sure to add a test or mini app test for RF-8435
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: we can do the same fix as for a4j:support
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: I saw your comment with the workaround - won't users still loose functionality with that.  i.e. if they need the outputPanel?
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alexsmirnov
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nbelaevski: Using clientId was a workaround that simulates JSF 2.0 system event.
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: ok - I'll be interested to see it - can not remember a4j:support fix
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: the fix for memory leak used "component" expression
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: we can do the same
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alexsmirnov
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a4j:outputPanel has special functionality for AJAX rendering, and rich:messages is another form of it. In the customer case, ajax panel does not necessary.
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: true, just thinking about why user would have nested this way - but what you say makes sense.
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nbelaevski
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alexsmirnov: that's a real use-case from the forum
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balunasj
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we can skip RFPL issues
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balunasj
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we have a two week community feedback phase to cover more as needed
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alexsmirnov
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balunasj: User case is dangerous. We especially enforce rendering of messages to be sure that they will be always displayed correctly independent of application logic.
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: I have not reviewed the forum post, so am not familiar with exact use case.
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: if you have a minute can you please comment on the forums ?
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balunasj
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prabhat: I know we have time until we need to worry about final release testing, but are you comfortable with the plan as stated?
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balunasj
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prabhat: do you need anything?
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prabhat
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balunasj: for 3.3.3?
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balunasj
 
besides more money, resources, etc...
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balunasj
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prabhat: yup
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balunasj
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4.0 final is a way out P-)
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prabhat
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balunasj: for 3.3.3 we are fine.
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balunasj
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prabhat: figured - thanks
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prabhat
 
things balunasj is always welcome to arrange for more money ;)_
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prabhat
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/s/things/thinks
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balunasj
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Not within my power - rruss ^^
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balunasj
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balunasj
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ok lets move on to 4.0 quick
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11:53am
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balunasj
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Nick and I have made good progress on the plan and will be updating wiki's and reviewing details with team.
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balunasj
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Note that dates in agenda are rough, but what it looks like.
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balunasj
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We were hoping for sooner, but the true is the iteration components, and rest of the "base" work are needed for future releases and can not be pushed.
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balunasj
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When we send out plan please review asap and we'll finalize, and keep moving
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11:55am
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balunasj
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I wanted to have time for general 4.0 discussion, but we are nearly out of time.
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balunasj
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anyone have anything critical that can't wait to be discussed in forums or email?
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prabhat
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balunasj: all the image links at http://community.jboss.org/wiki/richfaceswikihomepage are broken
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balunasj
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looking...
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balunasj
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seem to be ok with me - perhaps cached
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nbelaevski
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confirmed, I see the same
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ilya_shaikovsky
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when trying to open image by url - getting https://community.jboss.org/login.jspa?authzFailed=true
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ilya_shaikovsky
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ilya_shaikovsky
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and in the same time see that I logged in in header of "fail" page
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balunasj
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let me log out - perhaps that is it
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ilya_shaikovsky
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balunasj, I've logged
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ilya_shaikovsky
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and see broken
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prabhat
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balunasj: i am logged in too
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balunasj
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cleared cache - waiting
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balunasj
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prabhat: ilya_shaikovsky : I'm uber admin - might be different
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balunasj
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yup - clear cache made it fail ( and being logged out )
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balunasj
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ilya_shaikovsky: can you email help desk about this
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balunasj
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cc me
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ilya_shaikovsky
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sure
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ilya_shaikovsky
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already started writing
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balunasj
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and make sure add JBoss project project - so Red Hat IT knows to redirect to .org team
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balunasj
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thanks
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alexsmirnov
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One more question. rich:tree has a minor issue in the portlets - https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/PBR-136 . I did workaround in the bridge, is it make sense to create task for 3.3.3 ?
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balunasj
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ok all - I've got to run - I'll post minutes up shortly.
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: looking
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12:02pm
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balunasj
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what is the risk to do it right in RF?
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alexsmirnov
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The problem occurs when tree script was loaded twice or more, that is also could happen in the standalone application.
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balunasj
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ilya_shaikovsky: something else is up with site now - can log in get service is temp unavailable
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ilya_shaikovsky
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balunasj, I just entered
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ilya_shaikovsky
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seems ok
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: is the fix similar to the portal bridge changes?
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ilya_shaikovsky
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balunasj, oh.. you mean the same wiki page and not project site..
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12:05pm
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ilya_shaikovsky
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I see
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balunasj
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right
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12:06pm
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ilya_shaikovsky
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so maybe wait till it will available? maybe some server restarts causes the images temporarily unavailable.. If I'm not mistaken - I saw them today or tommorow inplace
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: please ping me later on the tree issue, or continue talking here - I need to head out - sorry
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balunasj
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ilya_shaikovsky: agree
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balunasj
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bye all