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balunasj
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Updated agenda here : http://community.jboss.org/wiki/RichFacesTeamMeetingAgenda3-23-2010#cf
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10:57am
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balunasj
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We'll get started in a few minutes - NEED COFFEE.........
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11:02am
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nbelaevski
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hi Jay
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11:03am
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balunasj
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Hi Nick
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11:03am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: I've been cleaning a little house in jira
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11:03am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: let me know if anything needs adjusting
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11:04am
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amarkhel
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hi
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11:04am
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balunasj
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amarkhel: hi
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11:04am
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balunasj
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I think we have enough to get started
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11:04am
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balunasj
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I know alex has some 3.3.3.F items, but I'm sure he will join soon
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11:05am
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balunasj
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so first we need to discuss 3.3.3.Final dev and progress and estimates - https://jira.jboss.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&&fixfor=12314120&pid=12310341&resolution=-1&sorter/field=updated&sorter/order=DESC
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11:06am
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balunasj
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amarkhel: you have two left - how are these looking?
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11:06am
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alexsmirnov joined the chat room.
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11:07am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: hi alex
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11:07am
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alexsmirnov
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Hi guys
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11:07am
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prabhat
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hello
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11:07am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: just started talking about 3.3.3.F
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11:07am
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balunasj
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https://jira.jboss.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&&fixfor=12314120&pid=12310341&resolution=-1&sorter/field=updated&sorter/order=DESC
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11:07am
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balunasj
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amarkhel: is going to give update on his issues
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11:08am
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amarkhel
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balunasj: One(photoalbum patch) should be resolved only, second(exceptionHandler)  - in progress
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11:08am
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balunasj
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amarkhel: estimate on RF-8524
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11:08am
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jbossbot
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[RF-8524] Update JSF 2 version of 3.3.x to use built-in exception handler [Coding In Progress, Major, Andrey Markhel] http://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/RF-8524
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11:09am
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balunasj
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?
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11:09am
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amarkhel
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balunasj: One day is enough I think
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11:09am
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balunasj
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amarkhel: so end of today, or end of tomorrow?
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11:10am
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amarkhel
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balunasj: I'll try to resolve issue today
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11:10am
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balunasj
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amarkhel: ok thank you
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11:11am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: I know you ended up with a bunch of issues how are they looking?
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11:12am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: by the way I assigned a portal issue to you just to investigate - see if there is an easy solution - RF-8541
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11:12am
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alexsmirnov
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I started worked on the 8529, but it require one more day to resolve.
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11:12am
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jbossbot
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[RF-8541] Null Parent Node [Open, Major, Alexander Smirnov] http://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/RF-8541
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11:12am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: so the rest of today for you?
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11:12am
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balunasj
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for that issue?
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11:12am
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alexsmirnov
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Intermediate results saved as https://svn.jboss.org/repos/richfaces/branches/framework-shared/
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11:13am
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balunasj
 
looking....
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11:13am
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balunasj
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ok so this is where you are doing the work - that is good - it must be a large change then?
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11:14am
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alexsmirnov
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I divided richfaces-impl to 3 project, one of them contains shared code and two small projects targeted for jsf 1.2 and 2.0.
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11:15am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: is that just for dev & testing, or is that the changes we need for release?
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11:15am
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alexsmirnov
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There are a little changes in code but projects structure significatly different.
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11:15am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: I'm not sure how comfortable I am with a change like that for the final release
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11:16am
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balunasj
 
thinking....
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11:16am
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alexsmirnov
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I'm too. That is why I didn't commit changes to working branch.
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11:16am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: good idea
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11:16am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: lets return to this issue, and cover the rest.
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11:17am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: We'll followup on this after
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11:17am
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balunasj
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so from the sounds of it we'll need to assign some of Alex's issues out if we are going to make a release
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11:17am
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alexsmirnov
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Another options is deployment with changed pom's but I'm not sure yet is it even possible without custom maven code.
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11:18am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: hmm, lets return to this issue, but if there is workaround ( even manual steps, I would be happier).
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11:19am
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balunasj
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RF-8541 - is just for investigation - hopefully would not take alexsmirnov long to just look.
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11:19am
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jbossbot
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[RF-8541] Null Parent Node [Open, Major, Alexander Smirnov] http://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/RF-8541
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11:19am
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balunasj
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RF-8540 - any chance to look at this one?
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11:19am
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jbossbot
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[RF-8540] RichFaces autocomplete does not work in portlets in the jboss portal [Open, Critical, Alexander Smirnov] http://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/RF-8540
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11:19am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: ^
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11:20am
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alexsmirnov
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I'll take a look for 8540/41 as I finish build issue.
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11:21am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: ok thank - I know you have a lot on your plate - that is why I'm trying to see if we can spread it out to others to help
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11:21am
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balunasj
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RF-8536 - nbelaevski you had some ideas for this one right - iirc
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11:21am
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jbossbot
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[RF-8536] fileUpload does not always complete in IE8 [Open, Major, Alexander Smirnov] http://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/RF-8536
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11:21am
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alexsmirnov
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But I'm not sure that I have enough time for https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/RF-8536. Can anyone take a look for that ?
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11:22am
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: I can take a look
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11:22am
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balunasj
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nbelaevski: thanks - I do not even have an XP machine
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11:22am
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balunasj
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although likely broken on any winodws IE8
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11:23am
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nbelaevski
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balunasj: I think that's IE8, not XP. assigned the issue to me
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11:23am
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balunasj
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thanks
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11:24am
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balunasj
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So lets plan for a code freeze of end of day today ( it sounds like it will be a little tight, but possible).
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11:25am
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balunasj
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we'll revisit start of business tomorrow and see where things stand
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11:25am
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balunasj
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Konstantin1: will you be available tomorrow to assist with release tagging, etc....
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11:27am
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Konstantin1
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balunasj: yes
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11:27am
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balunasj
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ok great
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11:27am
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balunasj
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prabhat: that mean that it possible you will have a build sometime later tomorrow.
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11:28am
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prabhat
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balunasj: ok
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11:28am
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balunasj
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prabhat: have you had a chance to review or estimate the time you will need for the final testing
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balunasj
 
this is assuming something like alexsmirnov IVY build changes do not alter plans.
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11:29am
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prabhat
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balunasj: nope not yet but it should not be longer than what we did for CR
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prabhat
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balunasj: I think we should stick with two jar approach for jsf1 and jsf2. Any more change for GA is not good
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11:30am
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balunasj
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prabhat: ok good so if we can get you a build we still have a chance to release early next week.
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11:30am
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balunasj
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prabhat: agreed - assuming you are talking about the change alexsmirnov was discussing?
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11:30am
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prabhat
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balunasj: yes
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prabhat
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balunasj: my estimate is also based on the fact that changeset is smaller for GA than what it was for CR
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11:31am
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balunasj
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on min
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11:31am
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balunasj
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prabhat: right now there are 28 issues
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balunasj
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some are rejected, won'tfix, etc...
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11:32am
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prabhat
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28 ouch..looking
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balunasj
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lfryc: any update on Jopr team - I have seen some emails, but what is the latest
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lfryc
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balunasj: Shelly said she hope in fixing test suite this week
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11:33am
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balunasj
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lfryc: ok thanks
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11:33am
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balunasj
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please keep on it and let me know if you need some help
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prabhat
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balunasj: looked at 28 and it should be manageable
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lfryc
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balunasj: there can be other blockers after fixing current issues, so we must count with manual testing as backup
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balunasj
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prabhat: I believe most are easy to verify but important, and others may take a little time.
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11:35am
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balunasj
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lfryc: absolutely - we will still need manual testing of admin console
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11:35am
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balunasj
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a quick note on docs - sean is out until Thursday
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11:36am
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balunasj
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I moved a doc issue to RFPL since it is not required prior to tag
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balunasj
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for testing.
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balunasj
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They are required prior to uploading for some verification and review.
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11:37am
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balunasj
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prabhat: lfryc : anything else from QE side of things?
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11:37am
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prabhat
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balunasj: nope..when you know the timeline for zips, I will create tasks for QE
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lfryc
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balunasj: no concerns from me
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balunasj
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prabhat: great leading to https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/RFPL-471
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jbossbot
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[RFPL-471] RichFaces 3.3.3.Final Release [Open, Blocker, Jay Balunas] http://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/RFPL-471
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balunasj
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this is the release jira to track all of the final steps
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prabhat
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balunasj: ok
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balunasj
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prabhat: as before ( because jira does not support nested sub-tasks) please create a separate issue that can be linked to the RFPL-474
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jbossbot
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[RFPL-474] QE 3.3.3.Final Release [Open, Major, Prabhat Jha] http://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/RFPL-474
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prabhat
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balunasj: wow..you need two jiras for https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/RFPL-479 and  https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/RFPL-482 no wonder our jira lists are long
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jbossbot
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[RFPL-479] Prep announcement blog [Open, Major, Jay Balunas] http://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/RFPL-479
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jbossbot
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[RFPL-482] Announce Release [Open, Major, Jay Balunas] http://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/RFPL-482
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balunasj
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especially for a Final release there is a lot of prep to get ready
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balunasj
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then we pull the trigger all at once
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prabhat
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balunasj: it's fine..just pulling your leg
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balunasj
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sure
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balunasj
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has anyone had a chance to review RFPL-471
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jbossbot
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[RFPL-471] RichFaces 3.3.3.Final Release [Open, Blocker, Jay Balunas] http://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/RFPL-471
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balunasj
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I know ilya took a look
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balunasj
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am I missing any steps do we need to make any udpates?
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balunasj
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btw - some tasks I just put into the RFPL for 3.3.3.F is updating sites like wikipedia, jsfmatrix etc....
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11:44am
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balunasj
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ok so if that is all set lets move on to discussing layout options for downloads.jboss.org
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balunasj
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RFPL-463
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jbossbot
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[RFPL-463] Review and update jboss.org/richfaces download structure [Open, Major, Jay Balunas] http://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/RFPL-463
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balunasj
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right now is is one massive directory
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11:44am
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balunasj
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is is not a huge problem because it is not directly viewable
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11:45am
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balunasj
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still I would prefer to get some order to it.
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balunasj
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I propose creating /3.3.X /4.0.X
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balunasj
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directories
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11:46am
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balunasj
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question I have is do we then create sub directories for releases under it like /3.3.3.F
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balunasj
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or just have all the 3.3.X files in one directory?
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balunasj
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thoughts?
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balunasj
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ok - I'll need to look and see what others are doing then, and we'll discuss.
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balunasj
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k
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balunasj
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Konstantin1: this would effect you when you upload obviously
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11:48am
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balunasj
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next question is - do we clean/move files that are already there?
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11:48am
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alexsmirnov
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I think we should create "archive" directory for the old 3... releases
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11:48am
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balunasj
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I like the idea, we would need to be careful of updating our own download links
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11:48am
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balunasj
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so that they are not broken.
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11:49am
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balunasj
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Any older download links from other places would break if we move them, but if they are the older releases it might not be that big of a problem
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: do you think that is acceptable?
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Konstantin1
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balunasj: 1. I don't understand question. 2. Yes, we can move/delete.
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alexsmirnov
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Most of links points to the download area. Also, we are talking about page structure, I guess links to the real files will be unchanged.
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov Konstantin1: sorry about that - I'm talking about moving the real files
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11:53am
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balunasj
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the download pages shift as we release new stable releases, etc...
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11:53am
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balunasj
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Moving forward we'll have sub directories for 3.3.X and 4.0.X release artifacts.
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alexsmirnov
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balunasj: Is it necessary ? I guess that we can change downloads page only.
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: yup  -that was my point earlier - these files are not visable to any but the ones uploading.
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11:54am
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balunasj
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we do not need to move the older files - it would only be to clean up
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11:54am
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balunasj
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the directory
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11:55am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: but I think you make a good point that most outside links point to the download page and not the actual download files
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alexsmirnov
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So we can create tho new directores for 3.x/4.x releases and decide current place as archive.
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: sure we can leave the current place alone
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balunasj
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so the structure would be
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balunasj
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- /richfaces
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balunasj
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---- /3.3.X
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balunasj
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----- /4.0.X
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balunasj
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---- /4.0.X
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alexsmirnov
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Link to download page has sense for humans only - so it is not a concern, anybody can find a target, may be one click far.
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balunasj
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Ignore the middle 4.0.X
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11:58am
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: right the download page on the project site would stay the same ( except that new links would point to new file paths for the actual download files ).
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alexsmirnov
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It's ok.
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balunasj
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and we leave all the older files in the /richfaces folder so we don't break older links
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balunasj
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ok good
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alexsmirnov
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but add ---/archive page for older releases.
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: I agree - we'll just need to update out site to files
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balunasj
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but that is not hard
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alexsmirnov
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There al links for old releases would be moved ( without changing of download files location )
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: not sure if we are talking about the same thing - I'm talking about the download file location  under downloads.jboss.org/richfaces
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12:01pm
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balunasj
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prabhat: sire note - any progress on creating richfaces-builds email list?
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12:01pm
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balunasj
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s/sire/side
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prabhat
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balunasj: i have not got any update on ticket unless I missed that update. let me quickly check
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balunasj
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prabhat: np just checking
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prabhat
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balunasj: it's there: https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/richfaces-builds
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: we can take this off line I think - want to make sure we are on the same page
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12:04pm
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balunasj
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prabhat: ok great - have you guys assigned builds to it yet?  If you have I'll subscribe and we can test it out.
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alexsmirnov
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Ok. I'm talking that we can reorder pages at http://www.jboss.org/richfaces/download/... without affecting real files structure
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: yup - two different things
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: lets take off line
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12:04pm
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alexsmirnov
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but we can create folders and put new releases there just for convinience.
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prabhat
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balunasj: not yet..will do that
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balunasj
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prabhat: np just wondering
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: agree
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12:05pm
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: we'll not make the mess bigger, but won't clean it up much either
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12:05pm
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balunasj
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so a couple of quick notes for 4.0
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12:06pm
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balunasj
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Later this week we will be doing a status and jira review for A@
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12:06pm
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balunasj
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A2
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12:06pm
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balunasj
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to see where we are - everyone please take some time and make sure jira is up to date, and be ready to discuss status, and estimates for completion. 
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12:07pm
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balunasj
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also prabhat updated the test plan for 4.0 - http://community.jboss.org/wiki/Richfaces4testplan
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12:07pm
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balunasj
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please take a look when you can.
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12:07pm
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balunasj
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wrapped up quick - but does anyone have anything they want to add or talk about now?
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12:08pm
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balunasj
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ok everyone - I'll post minutes, and we'll keep moving forward.
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balunasj
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Thanks all