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[17:59:40] <balunasj> Hi all
[17:59:46] <balunasj> here is the agenda for the day - http://community.jboss.org/wiki/RichFacesTeamMeetingAgenda4-20-2010
[18:00:01] <nbelaevski> hello all
[18:00:41] <balunasj> I will likely need to leave early and Nick will take over when that is done.
[18:00:48] <balunasj> or when I need to leave #;-)
[18:01:31] <balunasj> So first - probably everyone by now knows that the JBoss Maven repo's have been updated, and some of the URLs have changed
[18:02:06] <balunasj> Related to that - is the svn issues that just cleared up this morning
[18:02:34] <balunasj> I was just told that write access to the RichFaces SVN repo has been restored
[18:02:38] <balunasj> YEAH!!
[18:02:54] <balunasj> so we should be in good shape there,
[18:03:07] <balunasj> although I have not tested it, since I literally just got the email #;-)
[18:03:17] <balunasj> if some one could check that would be good.
[18:03:48] <balunasj> So back to the maven repo updates
[18:03:57] <balunasj> We are tracking related issues here - https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/RFPL-519
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[18:05:00] <balunasj> We need to update some of our repository settings, and hudson builds so that we are compliant with the new structure
[18:05:29] <balunasj> I have begun working on the 3.3 hudson builds, and pom.xml, but will be on PTO later today.
[18:05:55] <balunasj> Markhel should be looking at that as well, and I touch base with him
[18:06:30] <balunasj> Konstantin1: is looking at the 4.0.X builds
[18:06:36] <balunasj> pom files I mean
[18:06:46] <balunasj> Konstantin1: have you had time to make any progress here?
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[18:09:40] <Konstantin1> balunasj: I wait when SVN will work completely.
[18:09:56] <balunasj> yup - that is ok and what I was doing as well.
[18:10:16] <balunasj> I noticed a in the 3.3 builds we need to update some urls
[18:10:22] <balunasj> remove 3rd party repos
[18:10:37] <balunasj> and make sure the jboss repo will pull in the required dependencies
[18:11:18] <balunasj> I would assume we have a similar changes in 4.0
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[18:11:31] <balunasj> Then once you have it working locally we'll update hudons
[18:12:02] <Konstantin1> Yes, I have discussed it with amarkhel
[18:12:04] <balunasj> amarkhel: we were just talking about the updates due to the repo changes
[18:12:08] <balunasj> ok good.
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[18:12:37] <balunasj> so if Konstantin1 and amarkhel can tackle that today, we'll review and discuss, then update hudson
[18:13:04] <balunasj> Konstantin1: amarkhel : sound good - do you guys have other conflicts for today and/or tomorrow morning?
[18:13:22] nbelaevski just committed files into SVN
[18:13:24] <alexsmirnov> Hi all! I'm late, sorry
[18:13:33] <nbelaevski> alexsmirnov: good morning Alex
[18:13:42] <balunasj> hi alexsmirnov
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[18:14:53] <balunasj> Konstantin1: amarkhel : will you be able to work on this today and/or tomorrow morning?
[18:15:03] <amarkhel> balunasj: yes
[18:15:07] <Konstantin1> yes
[18:15:25] <balunasj> ok great - please let nbelaevski and/or I know if there are questions or problems
[18:15:50] <balunasj> I'll try to take some more time to look as well, but on PTO this afternoon
[18:16:03] <amarkhel> ok
[18:16:11] <balunasj> As for how this will effect our release process
[18:16:29] <balunasj> that is partially TBD at this point, but will be worked out prior to Alpha2 release
[18:16:36] <balunasj> Likely not too much will change
[18:16:43] <balunasj> other than we have a stage server #:-)
[18:17:03] <balunasj> Any other comments or questions r. the Maven or SVN changes?
[18:17:21] <nbelaevski> Alex_Kolonitsky: have a question
[18:17:43] <Alex_Kolonitsky> We need a "jsdoc toolkit-2.3" for collecting documentation from JavaScript files. We need to discuss how to deploy it: in JBoss Maven repo or in some other repo? Who can help us with that?
[18:18:06] <nbelaevski> this file cannot be found nowhere in external repositories
[18:18:17] <nbelaevski> can we deploy it manually ourselves?
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[18:18:27] <balunasj> ok - and what is the license for this?
[18:18:51] <prabhatjha> sorry for being late here...i hope i did not miss anything critical
[18:18:59] <Alex_Kolonitsky> MIT License
[18:19:11] <nbelaevski> balunasj: also we need binaries, not source code
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[18:19:34] <balunasj> nbelaevski: link please?
[18:19:47] <balunasj> how is this packaged or provided now?
[18:19:58] <balunasj> just as a download? src and/or bin?
[18:20:05] <nbelaevski> .zip download
[18:20:11] <Alex_Kolonitsky> http://jsdoc-toolkit.googlecode.com/files/jsdoc_toolkit-2.3.2.zip
[18:20:25] <balunasj> ah ic
[18:20:57] <balunasj> I'll need to look into this a bit more.
[18:21:15] <balunasj> Not sure if/how the policy changed with 3rd party and getting things into the repo yet
[18:21:27] <nbelaevski> I remember we
[18:21:30] <nbelaevski> sorry
[18:21:42] <balunasj> I know this is discussed a little in the maven wiki pages.
[18:21:47] <nbelaevski> I remember we've created a list of groupId that are provided by JBoss projects
[18:22:07] <nbelaevski> so this are connected things I think
[18:22:17] <balunasj> yup, those are once that are "owned" or "managed" by JBoss if we are talking about the same thing.
[18:22:37] <nbelaevski> http://community.jboss.org/wiki/MavenRepositoryOrganization
[18:22:37] <balunasj> This would be a third party items.
[18:22:56] <nbelaevski> yes, these ones JBoss Thirdparty Uploads ( /thirdparty-uploads ) - Thirdparty artifacts which are not available via the proxied repositories.  These are uploaded directly to the repository.
[18:23:20] <balunasj> yes - that was the one I was thinking of thanks for the link
[18:23:29] <nbelaevski> not at all
[18:23:44] <balunasj> I would also try to contact the jsdoc devs and see if they plan to upload to maven
[18:24:22] <balunasj> Alex_Kolonitsky: is there anything on their page about this?
[18:25:10] <Alex_Kolonitsky> no
[18:25:19] <balunasj> ok
[18:25:38] <balunasj> Alex_Kolonitsky: see what you can find related to this on there page, and the new maven info.
[18:25:43] <balunasj> if you have no luck
[18:25:56] <balunasj> I'll contact some people and see the best approach is here
[18:26:16] <balunasj> Obviously an upload to thirdparty-uploads
[18:26:36] <balunasj> but we would also need to define artifact id and group etc...
[18:27:20] <nbelaevski> balunasj: there are older version in repos, we can borrow this data from there
[18:27:32] <balunasj> balunasj: older?
[18:28:47] <nbelaevski> balunasj: yes
[18:28:52] <nbelaevski> Alex_Kolonitsky: ^
[18:29:24] <balunasj> nbelaevski: I'm not sure what you mean - is there older versions of jsdoc?  I don't know
[18:29:35] <nbelaevski> balunasj: right - older version of jsdoc
[18:29:43] <balunasj> ah ok
[18:30:49] <nbelaevski> Alex_Kolonitsky: please create RFPL issue for the upload
[18:30:56] <nbelaevski> assign it to Jay
[18:31:11] <balunasj> yeah assign to me and I'll review
[18:31:19] <balunasj> I've got to get going now
[18:31:30] <balunasj> nbelaevski is going to lead the meeting through the rest of it
[18:31:31] <nbelaevski> also Konstantin1 should be able to take this
[18:31:43] balunasj thanks nbelaevski #:-)
[18:31:43] <nbelaevski> balunasj: right - thanks Jay
[18:32:08] <nbelaevski> next item is in the agenda is 3.3.x release
[18:32:10] <balunasj> nbelaevski: Lets have some research done by Konstantin1 and/or Alex_Kolonitsky and then I'll move it forward if there are issues.
[18:32:30] <nbelaevski> balunasj: even better #:)
[18:32:36] <nbelaevski> I agree
[18:32:52] <balunasj> ok thanks - later
[18:33:17] <nbelaevski> ok, back to 3.3.3.Final release
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[18:33:48] <nbelaevski> we've completed release process - so much thanks to everyone involved!
[18:34:04] <ilya_shaikovsky> actually release looks pretty good from feedback point of view.. just some JSF 2 compatibility problems.. myFAces 2 which we didn't considered
[18:34:18] <ilya_shaikovsky> but it not looks critical
[18:34:35] <ilya_shaikovsky> and after investigation we was able to find workarounds.. thanks to Nick
[18:34:53] <nbelaevski> ilya_shaikovsky: it's now in beta + MyFaces team is taking issues into work, so they are going to be resolved from theirs side
[18:35:01] <ilya_shaikovsky> sure
[18:35:11] <ilya_shaikovsky> That's why I think it's not critical
[18:35:16] <prabhatjha> ilya_shaikovsky: YE no more 3.3.X #:)
[18:35:17] <ilya_shaikovsky> actually there are no our faults
[18:35:17] <nbelaevski> currently we've posted two compatibility issues
[18:36:46] <nbelaevski> talking about our issues: there are several unscheduled ones, but none seem critical
[18:37:37] <nbelaevski> we have one from Gary Hu, alexsmirnov: can you please take a look: https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/RF-8601?
[18:37:38] <jbossbot> [RF-8601] JBoss EPP built-in ajax support partial refresh conlicts with Richfaces on IE8. [Open, Major, Unassigned] http://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/RF-8601
[18:38:47] <nbelaevski> alexsmirnov: is it RFC or bug? what is its priority?
[18:40:14] nbelaevski suggests to take this offline
[18:41:22] <alexsmirnov> I've never seen that before. I'll take a look for that today. At least, we can point it as known issue in the documentation.
[18:41:31] <nbelaevski> alexsmirnov: good, thanks
[18:41:47] <nbelaevski> @all: please take a look & update JIRA tasks
[18:42:06] <nbelaevski> there are pretty old tasks still being in progress
[18:42:24] <nbelaevski> also this includes resolution of outdated issues, etc
[18:42:44] <nbelaevski> especially as we've got back committ ability
[18:43:14] <nbelaevski> one more point: we need to review "Future" issues & sort them out
[18:43:28] <nbelaevski> we already discussed that previously
[18:44:16] <nbelaevski> any suggestion/comments are welcome, because there is big number of issues to go through
[18:45:36] <nbelaevski> talking about QA-posted issues - Alex_Kolonitsky will commit fix for RF-8600 very soon
[18:45:38] <jbossbot> [RF-8600] f:actionListener: Parent is not of type ActionSource [Coding In Progress, Critical, Alex Kolonitsky] http://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/RF-8600
[18:45:53] <nbelaevski> I'll take a look at another issue later today
[18:46:02] <nbelaevski> prabhatjha: ^
[18:46:44] <nbelaevski> any questions/comments on this?
[18:46:52] <alexsmirnov> nbelaevsky: I moved Portal issue to the Portlet Bridge.
[18:47:13] <nbelaevski> alexsmirnov: great, thanks
[18:47:34] <prabhatjha> nbelaevski: ok tx
[18:47:49] <ppitonak> nbelaevski: thanks
[18:48:03] <nbelaevski> prabhatjha: ppitonak: np
[18:48:16] <nbelaevski> let's discuss 4.x shortly
[18:48:43] <nbelaevski> we need to create small example application about new tables features and blog about it
[18:48:55] <nbelaevski> the task for this is RFPL-525
[18:48:56] <jbossbot> [RFPL-525] announce new tables features at blogs and make small exetrnal sample [Open, Major, Ilya Shaikovsky] http://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/RFPL-525
[18:49:27] <nbelaevski> ilya_shaikovsky: any news about this?
[18:49:44] <ilya_shaikovsky> nbelaevski, I'll start it tommorow
[18:50:04] <nbelaevski> ilya_shaikovsky: ok, that's good
[18:50:23] <ilya_shaikovsky> I checked some existent issues at demo yesterday.. and today spent tiem at client side discussions and wiki updates.. also updated myFaces 2 compatibility wiki
[18:51:12] <nbelaevski> ilya_shaikovsky: ok, I see
[18:51:37] <nbelaevski> ilya_shaikovsky: is the example going to be CDI-based, or plain JSF?
[18:51:52] <nbelaevski> ilya_shaikovsky: real DB or static datasource?
[18:52:58] <ilya_shaikovsky> I prefer make as simple as possible.. CDI usage maybe only for some basic things like components definitions.. and about real db - really not sure.. do you believe it's need for basic sample?
[18:54:01] <nbelaevski> ilya_shaikovsky: I think it's good to show how sorting/filtering/pagination can be done via DB
[18:54:20] <nbelaevski> ilya_shaikovsky: using fresh standard like JPA2
[18:54:44] <ilya_shaikovsky> nbelaevski, ok.. let's discuss it after I set-up basic project offline
[18:54:55] <nbelaevski> ilya_shaikovsky: good, thanks
[18:55:07] <ilya_shaikovsky> but in general - agree
[18:56:08] <nbelaevski> ok, good
[18:56:41] <alexsmirnov> nbelaevski: example can use simple embeded database like HSQL or even simulate JPA entity manager.
[18:57:24] <nbelaevski> alexsmirnov: agree
[18:58:02] <nbelaevski> one more point on 4.x
[18:58:31] <nbelaevski> we are discussing assembler & build now
[18:58:51] <nbelaevski> final results will be available soon
[18:59:51] <nbelaevski> as for now, we are going to create separate distribution for CDK tool
[19:00:36] <nbelaevski> that's all for today's agenda. any questions/comments?
[19:02:52] <nbelaevski> ok, thanks everybody