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11:00am
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balunasj_mtg
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Here is the agenda for todays's meeting http://community.jboss.org/wiki/RichFacesTeamMeetingAgenda8-3-2010
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11:01am
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balunasj_mtg
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So lets get started
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11:01am
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balunasj_mtg
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The first thing I wanted to discuss is dev status.
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11:01am
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balunasj_mtg
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And the big item there is the build restructure.
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11:02am
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: I talked with Alex_Kolonitsky and nbelaevski alittle early today to get an update.
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11:02am
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balunasj_mtg
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We identified a few more items that need to be completed.
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11:02am
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: /ui refactor, assembler, and sandbox moving.
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11:03am
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: There is also an issue with CDK that is holding up some of the work.
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11:03am
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alexsmirnov
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yes, there they are
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11:03am
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: But I wanted to get your thoughts on additional tasks?
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11:03am
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alexsmirnov
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I'm going to finish build today.
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11:03am
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ilya_shaikovsky
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hello all!
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11:03am
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: what part do you mean?
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11:05am
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alexsmirnov
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both - build errors and refactor, and CDK error as well.
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11:05am
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: are you planning on working with Alex_Kolonitsky on this?  I wanted to make sure we are not duplicating effort
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11:06am
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alexsmirnov
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at least, we are not working together - Alex's workind day done.
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11:07am
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: sure   just please touch base on this if needed.
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11:07am
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balunasj_mtg
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Alex_Kolonitsky: does that work for you?
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11:09am
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Alex_Kolonitsky
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нуы
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11:09am
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Alex_Kolonitsky
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yes
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11:10am
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balunasj_mtg
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Alex_Kolonitsky: ok
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11:10am
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: so lets discuss remaining items for it.
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11:11am
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balunasj_mtg
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renaming /root --> /modules
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11:11am
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balunasj_mtg
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agree?  Other names?
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11:11am
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alexsmirnov
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I plan to start with Alpha/M1 tags ( move them to /tags as single projects ), and simplify CDK structure: move docs and artifacts to the top level, move projects from CDK/plugins to /cdk
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11:12am
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alexsmirnov
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renaming root would better to done with clean content ( without tags ).
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11:13am
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: agree with waiting until root is cleaner.
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11:13am
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: nbelaevski and I discussed the tags
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11:13am
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balunasj_mtg
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I think that having them in the /archive/4.0.0.<release> directory will be good
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11:14am
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balunasj_mtg
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that way all tags for a release are together, and if we need to re-release there will be some manual work, but we should not do that work unless needed
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11:14am
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: agree?
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11:16am
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alexsmirnov
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Not sure that moving 4.0 tags to archive is proper idea. I think they would be created as single directories ( 4.0.4.Alpha, 4.0.0-xx.M1 ) in tags.
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11:17am
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: I'm fine with that too, as long as the various tags for a release are not all in one level as you brought up
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11:18am
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alexsmirnov
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Not at a single level, but in the same directory structure as they were in root ( except intermediate tags/4.0../ folders.
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11:19am
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prabhaaaat
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balunasj_mtg, alexsmirnov  I also think that 4.0.X tags should not go under archive
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11:19am
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alexsmirnov
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I already did the tag with root pom and 'svn:externals' links for M1. I will write shell script that moves tags from root using content odf externals property.
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11:21am
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alexsmirnov
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That is why I suggested to move tags before other changes - now that script going a little bit complicated.
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11:21am
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balunasj_mtg
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prabhaaaat: I don't feel strongly as long it is not dumping all the tags at one level.  alexsmirnov Do you feel strongly about the tag level with /archive for 4.0?
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11:22am
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: fair point - I wish you and Alex_Kolonitsky had a chance to coordinate.
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11:23am
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alexsmirnov
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I agree with prabhat to keep tags at top level ( not in the archive ). That's only 4 tags, so it doesn't overload tags folder.
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11:23am
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: sure, as I said I don't feel stringly.
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11:24am
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: you are also going to move cdk doc back into /docs folder right?
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11:24am
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alexsmirnov
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right.
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11:24am
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nbelaevski
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do we need M1 tag for 13th July?
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11:25am
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alexsmirnov
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I think Sean will be more comfortable to work with single project.
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11:26am
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alexsmirnov
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nbelaevski  I prefer to keep whole history.
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11:26am
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: agree
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11:26am
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balunasj_mtg
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nbelaevski: no really, but if we can keep it I would like to.
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11:26am
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balunasj_mtg
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nbelaevski: I'll leave that up to alexsmirnov and how hard it is with the script.
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11:27am
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nbelaevski
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ok, another question - where do we have tags for parent/faces-shade-transformers?
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11:27am
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nbelaevski
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and where will they be in the new structure?
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11:27am
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balunasj_mtg
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they are in the /root/build/resources/tags now
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11:28am
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balunasj_mtg
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I think they should be fairly flat structure in the new directories.
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11:28am
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nbelaevski
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does it make sense to archive some of them?
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11:28am
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balunasj_mtg
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what I want to do is avoid doing all the plumbling to get the re-builds from the tags 100% done now.
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11:28am
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alexsmirnov
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nbelaevski : I think they can be moved to /tags folder too.
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11:28am
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: agree
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11:29am
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alexsmirnov
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Actually, we don't need all of them but only ones that used by released tags.
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11:30am
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: sure that is fine.
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11:30am
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balunasj_mtg
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Here is what I propose
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11:30am
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balunasj_mtg
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Lets get through the other agenda points quick and then return to this discussion
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11:31am
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balunasj_mtg
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It should not take too long.
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11:31am
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alexsmirnov
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As I remember, most of richfaces-rood releases were done by accident
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11:32am
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: ?
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11:32am
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balunasj_mtg
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you mean richfaces-parent?
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11:32am
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alexsmirnov
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Yes. Two or three releases per day due to minor issues.
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11:32am
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: yup - learning curve and early development
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11:33am
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balunasj_mtg
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ok lets move on to other parts for now.
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11:33am
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alexsmirnov
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Not a problem, but we can clean that now.
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11:33am
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balunasj_mtg
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nbelaevski: upgrade to myfaces is going to have to wait for build strucutre update.
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11:33am
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nbelaevski
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balunasj_mtg: agree
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11:33am
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balunasj_mtg
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nbelaevski: I am taking that out of richfaces-parent and into release specific locations ( bom ) most likely
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11:34am
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nbelaevski
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balunasj_mtg: ok
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11:34am
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: Emmanuel was asking about an update on client side validation.  He would like to discuss it at JavaOne.
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11:34am
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alexsmirnov
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balunasj_mtg : yes, bom is more proper place for that.
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11:34am
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: It is in our slides, and he would like to understand it better.
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11:35am
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alexsmirnov
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balunasj_mtg : I did not have a chance to touch the base with client validation yet
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11:35am
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: We need to finalize our thoughts there, so you can update that sections of the presentation, and we can update Emmanuel.
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11:35am
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: At the very least we need to make sure the slides we do have are accurate, and discuss with emmanuel
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11:36am
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alexsmirnov
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I can create slides based on proposed architecture from wiki.
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11:36am
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balunasj_mtg
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I'm thinking after webinar tomorrow we should discuss ( perhaps a little today )
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11:36am
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: ok
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11:36am
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alexsmirnov
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Ok, I'm ready to discuss.
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11:37am
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: I'll email emmanuel and so we can touch base tomorrow then.
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11:37am
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alexsmirnov
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ok
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11:37am
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: you and I can discuss more later today.
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11:37am
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: thanks
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11:37am
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balunasj_mtg
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Next up
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11:37am
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balunasj_mtg
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Maven 3.
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11:37am
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balunasj_mtg
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Again waiting for build updates, but this will solve a big issue for QE and stage server
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11:38am
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balunasj_mtg
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and since it should be Maven 2 compatible we will not break users of the project.
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11:38am
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alexsmirnov
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balunasj_mtg : I don't see a big problems with Maven 3. Actually, I'm using it for builds.
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11:38am
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: yup - I've tried it as well and it seems good.
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11:38am
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nbelaevski
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alexsmirnov: I had checkstyle issues with it
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11:39am
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balunasj_mtg
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nbelaevski: I believe there is already a jira in there to upgrade checkstyle - iirc
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11:39am
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nbelaevski
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balunasj_mtg: yes, https://jira.jboss.org/browse/RFPL-595
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11:40am
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jbossbot
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jira [RFPL-595] moving to new checkstyle version [Open, Minor, Alex Kolonitsky] https://jira.jboss.org/browse/RFPL-595
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11:40am
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balunasj_mtg
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nbelaevski: yup that is the one
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11:40am
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balunasj_mtg
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nbelaevski: perhaps if alexsmirnov gets the build updates completed, Alex_Kolonitsky can work on that sooner than later?
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11:41am
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nbelaevski
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balunasj_mtg: yes
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11:41am
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balunasj_mtg
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ok
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11:41am
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balunasj_mtg
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The next thing I wanted to discuss is about impact on rest of dev team with the changes
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11:42am
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balunasj_mtg
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I'm assuming others are working offline, and/or on other aspects of project.
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11:43am
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balunasj_mtg
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since anton, markhel, etc... are not on it is hard to ask them
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11:43am
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balunasj_mtg
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I'll follow up offline
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11:43am
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balunasj_mtg
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The same holds true for design comments in forums
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11:44am
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balunasj_mtg
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Konstantin1: are you able to keep working?  I've seen commits related to input?
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11:45am
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alexsmirnov
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balunasj_mtg : That's why I think that we should raname root->modules or touch sandbox as the last step.
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11:46am
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: makes sense
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11:46am
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balunasj_mtg
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ok lets now more to QE
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11:46am
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balunasj_mtg
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I know you guys have been busy.
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11:46am
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alexsmirnov
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For trunk build, I'm going to do that in the branch, so the only final merge would disturb other developers.
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11:46am
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balunasj_mtg
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Are there any questions, concerns etc... you would like to bring up?
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11:46am
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: ok
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11:47am
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alexsmirnov
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Finalyy, that's advantage that I avaiting for
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11:47am
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: please let me know if you need help - I'll be on all afternoon +
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11:47am
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ppitonak
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balunasj_mtg:  where will be /root/tests/metamer/ in new structure?
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11:47am
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ppitonak
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alexsmirnov: ^
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11:47am
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nbelaevski
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balunasj_mtg: we were going to discuss internal layout of ui modules
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11:47am
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balunasj_mtg
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ppitonak: I believe /modules/test/trunk/
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11:48am
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: agree?
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11:48am
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ppitonak
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balunasj_mtg: so we won't have our own t/b/t structure?
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11:48am
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balunasj_mtg
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ppitonak: I think yes you will
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11:48am
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alexsmirnov
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maybe, just /modules/tests ?
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11:48am
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: so in /tags you would have /rf-4.X and /rf-test/4.X etc....?
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11:49am
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alexsmirnov
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I suggest to make two tags ( 4.0.0.Mx + taest-4.0.0.Mx , for example )
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11:49am
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prabhaaaat
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alexsmirnov, , balunasj_mtg  I suggest modules/tests/$test_project_name and each test project has its own release cycle
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11:49am
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pernik
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just quick question about scrollable data table. Selection si very simple for large table (200 rows). If selectionMode is none then it works fine
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11:49am
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: Is there a reason not to have /modules/tests/<t/b/t>/etc...
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11:50am
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pernik
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Is there any way how to improve performance? CPU used is close to 100% if changing selection.
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11:50am
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alexsmirnov
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Something like that. At least, they will be close, so nobody has to investigate where some additional tags for release.
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11:50am
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prabhaaaat
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alexsmirnov, i wont want to tie release of test bits to main release..we may eventually do that but it would be good to have that as not mandatory
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11:51am
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balunasj_mtg
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prabhaaaat: yup, that is why we took out of /trunk/tests
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11:51am
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alexsmirnov
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prabhaaaat Because projects are not tied in single folder, tag for test is optional.
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11:51am
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balunasj_mtg
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prabhaaaat: either way it can have its own release schedule, but it is just a question of where the tags/branches go.
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11:52am
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prabhaaaat
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balunasj_mtg, yes..my main concern is independent release schedule ..as long as I have that I am happy
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11:52am
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prabhaaaat
 
is very easy to please
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11:52am
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alexsmirnov
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prabhaaaat : But that is mandatory for final releases, because they would be necessary to test possible backported fixes.
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11:53am
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prabhaaaat
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alexsmirnov, yes....having the flexibility to tag helps in that case as well
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11:53am
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balunasj_mtg
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prabhaaaat: either way the flexibility is there.  I just prefer that if separate lets keep t/b/t separate as well under /modules/tests/<t/b/t>
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11:54am
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nbelaevski
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how about tests/t|b|t?
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11:54am
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balunasj_mtg
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nbelaevski: yup - exactly what I would like to see
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11:54am
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alexsmirnov
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I just prefer to keep all tags in the single place, that will not be changed with other parts of repository.
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11:55am
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alexsmirnov
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so we will be free to change tests structure ( for example, divire them to test-automated and tests-manual
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11:55am
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ppitonak
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balunasj_mtg: what about /modules/metamer (without 'tests')... we have only one test project
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11:55am
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alexsmirnov
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divide
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11:55am
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: you know what - I agree with you on that.
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11:56am
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: I just get concerned over HUGE /tags directory
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11:56am
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balunasj_mtg
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ppitonak: but we might have more and I would prefer to have it all under one location.
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11:57am
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alexsmirnov
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ppitonak : If we do not create separate tags/branches structure, you are free to extract metamer as separate module, at any time.
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11:57am
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nbelaevski
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balunasj_mtg: alexsmirnov: let's put tests into trunk then
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11:57am
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balunasj_mtg
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nbelaevski: I believe the concern there is that sometime sthe /test tag is a little later than the project tag
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11:57am
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prabhaaaat
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nbelaevski, alexsmirnov  balunasj_mtg  now I am confused
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11:58am
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ppitonak
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nbelaevski: exactly as Jay said
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11:58am
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prabhaaaat
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nbelaevski, having tests tied to main tagging schedule forces me to have tests working  before which is not possible currently
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11:58am
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alexsmirnov
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balunasj_mtg : for 3 years, we did about 20 tags, including alpha and service releases.
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11:58am
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nbelaevski
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balunasj_mtg: I understand, but it doesn't seem natural that tests are at the top level, but their tags are not
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11:59am
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pernik
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just notice about scrollable data tabel: performance problem with selection in scrollable data table is only in IE not in the FF
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11:59am
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nbelaevski
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pernik: sorry we are having a meeting, can you please wait 15 minutes?
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11:59am
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pernik
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nbelaevski: sure
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11:59am
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prabhaaaat
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nbelaevski, that's why I was confused ..we need to have independent metamer so that I can test metamer with any given RF tag and I can create a new tag for Metamer whenever I want
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: right but now you are talking about making that nx2 instead of n
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12:00pm
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nbelaevski
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alexsmirnov: balunasj_mtg: can you please draw the structure and post link?
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12:00pm
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balunasj_mtg
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# of tags
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12:00pm
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balunasj_mtg
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yes
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12:01pm
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alexsmirnov
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balunasj_mtg : sure. It's not so huge number, and we can move outdated tags to archive, if we want.
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12:02pm
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alexsmirnov
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prabhaaaat : Is it hard to create separate richfaces-tests svn repo ? If you have separate release schedule for tests, it would be best solution.
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12:03pm
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balunasj_mtg
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http://pastebin.com/QQAktfvy
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12:03pm
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balunasj_mtg
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made two diff options
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12:03pm
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nbelaevski
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balunasj_mtg: thanks, looking
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12:03pm
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prabhaaaat
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alexsmirnov, I am fine with that ..that gives me more control. ppitonak what do you think? ^
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12:04pm
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balunasj_mtg
 
not crazy about separate repo, but not 100% against  - it would need to be public
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12:04pm
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prabhaaaat
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balunasj_mtg, of course public
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12:04pm
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ppitonak
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prabhaaaat: alexsmirnov yes, it would work
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12:04pm
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prabhaaaat
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balunasj_mtg, alexsmirnov  having a separate repo also reduces the code footpring when people are not interested in checking out code
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12:05pm
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prabhaaaat
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balunasj_mtg, alexsmirnov but I would prefer it under svn.jboss.org/richfaces though
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12:05pm
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prabhaaaat
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oops checking out test..that's what I meant
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12:05pm
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balunasj_mtg
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prabhaaaat: true, and increases complexity if someone wants to be involved in it - however if they are that involved they are likely interacting with everyone on the team
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12:06pm
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alexsmirnov
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Ok, so I vote for Option 2 from pastebin.
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12:06pm
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prabhaaaat
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balunasj_mtg, jboss.org folks wont like to have a separate repo for test of a project
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12:06pm
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prabhaaaat
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alexsmirnov, i lke option 2 better in pastebin. ppitonak you okay with that?
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12:07pm
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nbelaevski
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I like option#1 more
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12:07pm
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balunasj_mtg
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Option 3 - separate repo as well
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12:07pm
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ppitonak
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alexsmirnov: prabhaaaat yes, option 2 looks good
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12:07pm
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prabhaaaat
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nbelaevski, negative for option 1
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12:07pm
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balunasj_mtg
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I prefer option 1 or 2 but don't feel strongly
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12:07pm
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balunasj_mtg
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between those
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12:08pm
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nbelaevski
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prabhaaaat: ok, so we are sticking to #2 then
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12:08pm
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ppitonak
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nbelaevski: yet another question
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12:08pm
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alexsmirnov
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nbelaevski : I guess prabhaat opinion has to be most important.
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12:09pm
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ppitonak
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nbelaevski: if we have /tests/app1 and /tests/app2
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12:09pm
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nbelaevski
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alexsmirnov: sure
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12:09pm
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ppitonak
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nbelaevski: will be there 4.0.0-M2-app1 and 4.0.0.M2-app2?
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12:09pm
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prabhaaaat
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nbelaevski, you can convince me off line if I am missing some advantages of approach 1
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12:09pm
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balunasj_mtg
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ppitonak: no you would tag at /test
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12:09pm
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nbelaevski
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prabhaaaat: easier to select merge location in SVN clieant
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12:10pm
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balunasj_mtg
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the /modules/test is effectivly the tests /trunk
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12:10pm
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ilya_shaikovsky
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sorry guys.. gtg
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12:10pm
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ppitonak
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nbelaevski: prabhaaaat in this case it doesn't matter whether we chose option 1 or 2
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12:11pm
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prabhaaaat
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balunasj_mtg,in option 2, we don't have t/b/t for modules/tests/QE test projects?
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12:11pm
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balunasj_mtg
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ppitonak: that is why I don't feel too stongly
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12:11pm
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nbelaevski
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prabhaaaat: hmmm, you have them, but mixed with main modules
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12:11pm
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balunasj_mtg
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prabhaaaat: no - not a specific one just for /tests - you share with /tags and /branches
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12:12pm
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prabhaaaat
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I am sorry but I can you guys help me how option 1 or 2 help me get power to tag whenever I want ?
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12:12pm
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balunasj_mtg
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Where I agree with alexsmirnov is making something "update proof" when all tags in one location.  Where I agree with nbelaevski is the separate between tests trunk and tags/branches
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12:13pm
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balunasj_mtg
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prabhaaaat: you can tag when ever you want now   and with both options
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12:13pm
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nbelaevski
 
wonders whether we can create dev & qe folders just in the repo root...
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12:13pm
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balunasj_mtg
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nbelaevski: that would really be Option 3 at that point
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12:14pm
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nbelaevski
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balunasj_mtg: exactly
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12:14pm
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prabhaaaat
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balunasj_mtg, no..when I tag it, I would be tagging all test projects which is not what I want.
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12:15pm
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prabhaaaat
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balunasj_mtg, if option 3 is to have separate location for non unit tests and this location is under svn.jboss.org/richfaces, I am fine
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12:16pm
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balunasj_mtg
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prabhaaaat: if you start talking about tagging at specific test project level then I think Option 1 or option 3 are the only way to go
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12:16pm
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balunasj_mtg
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prabhaaaat: I would not want misc test project tags in /tags
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12:18pm
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prabhaaaat
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balunasj_mtg, nbelaevski alexsmirnov all I am saying in case I am sounding like an arse that I don't want tagging of metamer to be tied to tagging of core RF stuff
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12:18pm
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balunasj_mtg
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prabhaaaat: right and you have that in any of these options.
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12:18pm
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prabhaaaat
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so I leave it to you guys to see which option fits with bigger scheme. We will give it a try and if I run into a problem, will let you know
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12:19pm
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balunasj_mtg
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prabhaaaat: when you do not have it - is if /tests in in /trunk
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12:19pm
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balunasj_mtg
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prabhaaaat: ok - because we need to move on or we'll never get out of here
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12:20pm
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balunasj_mtg
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lets cover this as the build is finalized - either approach is doable - but we need to get the build there first.
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12:20pm
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: so as part of your updates are you going to remove /trunk/doc/trunk/... structure?
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12:20pm
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nbelaevski
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balunasj_mtg: prabhaaaat: alexsmirnov: I'd suggest to keep in mind possibility of modules restructuring in the future and select what will fit in better
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12:20pm
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nbelaevski
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wdyt?
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12:20pm
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prabhaaaat
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nbelaevski, sure
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12:21pm
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alexsmirnov
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right
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12:21pm
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prabhaaaat
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balunasj_mtg nbelaevski , another thing, I would like to have a mock M* release before next official milestone release so that we have everything understood
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12:21pm
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balunasj_mtg
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nbelaevski: agree, but again both have +/-
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12:21pm
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balunasj_mtg
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prabhaaaat: agreed
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12:21pm
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balunasj_mtg
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prabhaaaat: we will do our best to get it.
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12:22pm
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: right to my question?  or to the other?
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12:22pm
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nbelaevski
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imagine we've separated trees components family - what is the best option to store its tags: #1 or #2?
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12:23pm
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nbelaevski
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also, while tags are not so important, like branches are
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12:24pm
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alexsmirnov
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balunasj_mtg : Right to nick's about future module restructuring.
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12:24pm
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balunasj_mtg
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ok guys we really need to move on
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12:24pm
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balunasj_mtg
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we need to get base build running first
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12:25pm
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: ok - how about to my ?? about docs extra /trunk ?
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12:25pm
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alexsmirnov
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nbelaevski : The biggest problem with separate t/b/t folders that we will stuck with such structure forever, or released versions would be moved.
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12:26pm
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alexsmirnov
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balunasj_mtg : The same for docs.
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12:26pm
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nbelaevski
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alexsmirnov: yes, unfortunately that's so
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12:27pm
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: that is the big reason I lean too you idea
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12:27pm
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: ok
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12:28pm
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balunasj_mtg
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ok so two more points and they are related to build
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12:28pm
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balunasj_mtg
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1) /ui refactor - subprojects, package naming, etc...
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12:29pm
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balunasj_mtg
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2) continue discussion above, and other open items from it.
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12:29pm
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balunasj_mtg
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I want to make sure we cover 1)
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12:29pm
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balunasj_mtg
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& 2)
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balunasj_mtg
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balunasj_mtg
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nbelaevski: alexsmirnov : where was 1) before I went on vacation and what id the current plan?
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balunasj_mtg
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s/id/is
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12:32pm
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alexsmirnov
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balunasj_mtg Actually, we have no single place for ui. Nick, can you put all things ( Jira's, discussions ) on forum ? I guess you are more familiar with it.
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balunasj_mtg
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nbelaevski: ok so we need to start that discussion then
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12:33pm
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alexsmirnov
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I meanf for ui refactor.
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balunasj_mtg
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although should be on forum I think
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12:33pm
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balunasj_mtg
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It will likely be too big for time remaining.
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12:34pm
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balunasj_mtg
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nbelaevski: will you have time to do that today?
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12:34pm
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nbelaevski
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balunasj_mtg: ok
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12:36pm
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balunasj_mtg
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so alexsmirnov and Alex_Kolonitsky what else needs to be finalized now so alexsmirnov can continue with updates?
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12:39pm
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alexsmirnov
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I guess we have well enougth to to for today/tpmorrow.
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12:39pm
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: ok good - as I said I'll be online after I have some lunch
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balunasj_mtg
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Thanks all - I'll post minutes in a little while.