balunasj_mtg
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Hi All
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11:00am
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ishaikovsky
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Hello All!
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11:00am
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balunasj_mtg
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Here is the agenda for the meeting today
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11:00am
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balunasj_mtg
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http://community.jboss.org/wiki/RichFacesTeamMeetingAgenda10-26-2010
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11:00am
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alexsmirnov
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Hi!
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11:00am
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: Hi
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11:01am
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balunasj_mtg
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I would also like to discuss some updates for the meeting.
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11:01am
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balunasj_mtg
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Namely being careful of time, and ratholes
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11:01am
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balunasj_mtg
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I would like to end the meeting right around the scheduled end time
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11:02am
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balunasj_mtg
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We've had several meetings over the last few weeks go 2+ hours.
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11:02am
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balunasj_mtg
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It is no ones fault, we had a lot to discuss but I also think it is unproductive for everyone to be there.
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11:03am
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balunasj_mtg
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This means we need to be careful of going down ratholes - i.e. breaking down a discussion into details like implementation, and design.
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11:03am
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balunasj_mtg
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imo - these meetings should be more about status and syncing with the team.  If more detailed discussions are needed they should go offline.
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11:04am
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balunasj_mtg
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Also I have been thinking about breaking the meeting into timed parts, so that everyone does not need to be here for the whole thing.
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11:05am
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balunasj_mtg
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i.e. we'll discuss XXX at +20min, and YYY at +40 ( if you are involved with YYY and not XXX you can show up at +40min )
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11:05am
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balunasj_mtg
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Obviously anyone can stay for the whole thing if desired.
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11:05am
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balunasj_mtg
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Thoughts?  opinions?
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11:07am
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balunasj_mtg
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nbelaevski: ishaikovsky alexsmirnov ^
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11:07am
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alexsmirnov
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I'm ok for shorter discussions.
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11:07am
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ishaikovsky
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yes sounds good to involve only interested more
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11:07am
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nbelaevski
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alexsmirnov: balunasj_mtg: +1
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11:07am
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ishaikovsky
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interested = involved
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11:07am
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ishaikovsky
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in dev for component
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11:08am
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balunasj_mtg
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ok good
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11:08am
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edburns is now known as edburns_pomodoro.
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11:08am
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balunasj_mtg
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So for next meeting I'll have it in sections.  This means that it is peoples responsibility to know when they need to be here.
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11:09am
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balunasj_mtg
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If the agenda says XXX and you work on XXX you should be here
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11:09am
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balunasj_mtg
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Obviously some of us are involved across the board, like nbelaevski ishaikovsky alexsmirnov , and myself.
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11:09am
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balunasj_mtg
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ok so lets get started for today
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11:10am
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balunasj_mtg
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The main purpose for todays meeting is check status, and issues related to component code freeze this friday (weekend)
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11:10am
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balunasj_mtg
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We have quite a few open jira's for M4 still there
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11:11am
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balunasj_mtg
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nbelaevski: do you think it is current, and updated?
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11:11am
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balunasj_mtg
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or do you think we need to have people spend some time with it?
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11:12am
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nbelaevski
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balunasj_mtg: it should be updated
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11:13am
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balunasj_mtg
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nbelaevski: meaning it should be up to date, or people need to update it?  Just not sure of wording
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11:13am
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nbelaevski
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balunasj_mtg: up to date
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11:13am
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balunasj_mtg
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ok
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11:13am
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balunasj_mtg
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ok good ( and bad )
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11:14am
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balunasj_mtg
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We'll need to review to see what is really possible in the next two weeks.
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11:14am
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balunasj_mtg
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Since the component code freeze is coming lets focus on component status
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11:14am
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nbelaevski
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balunasj_mtg: there is a number of bugs for me - I'm going to work on them just after code freeze this Friday
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11:15am
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nbelaevski
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balunasj_mtg: I've moved some today but need to try to get them all fixed in M4
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11:15am
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balunasj_mtg
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nbelaevski: I see, and figure most are following the same plan
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11:16am
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balunasj_mtg
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So for components planned https://jira.jboss.org/browse/RF-9331
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11:16am
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jbossbot
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jira [RF-9331] New or migrated 4.0.0.M4 components [Open, Critical, Jay Balunas] https://jira.jboss.org/browse/RF-9331
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11:16am
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balunasj_mtg
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abelevich: lets start with the select components
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11:17am
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cypo joined the chat room.
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11:17am
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balunasj_mtg
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abelevich: I see code review, and promoting to /ui
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11:18am
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balunasj_mtg
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other tasks like showcase, test prep, docs, etc...
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11:18am
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abelevich
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currently i am work on junits for the select
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11:18am
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abelevich
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selects
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11:19am
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balunasj_mtg
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abelevich: I see both are in similar state
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11:19am
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balunasj_mtg
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abelevich: have you approached anyone to do a peer review of the components/
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11:20am
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abelevich
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not yet ... but I think Alex K will be right person to do this
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11:21am
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balunasj_mtg
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abelevich: I'm assuming these two components are going to be ready by component code freeze?
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11:21am
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balunasj_mtg
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abelevich: good - please coordinate with him
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11:22am
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abelevich
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yes, I think that components will be done before code freeze
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11:22am
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balunasj_mtg
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abelevich: excellent thanks
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11:22am
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: pyaschenko : moving on to CSV - https://jira.jboss.org/browse/RF-8742
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11:22am
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jbossbot
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jira [RF-8742] Client-side validation [Open, Major, Alexander Smirnov] https://jira.jboss.org/browse/RF-8742
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11:22am
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: pyaschenko : Lots of open issues still, what is the status, and plan to complete?
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11:23am
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alexsmirnov
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balunasj_mtg: server side part would be ready on friday or Monday, so I'm not sure about code freeze.
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11:24am
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pyaschenko
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balunasj_mtg: working on test for converters and validators
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11:24am
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: Friday is fine, but would like to build mock release Monday morning
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11:24am
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balunasj_mtg
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pyaschenko: implementation for them are done though?
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11:25am
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: pyaschenko : is https://jira.jboss.org/browse/RF-8742 up to date?
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11:25am
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jbossbot
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jira [RF-8742] Client-side validation [Open, Major, Alexander Smirnov] https://jira.jboss.org/browse/RF-8742
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11:25am
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ppitonak
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balunasj_mtg: why mock release?
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11:25am
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pyaschenko
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balunasj_mtg: planning to complete base converters
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11:25am
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balunasj_mtg
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ppitonak: Just internal - I'll post it, but you guys don't need to use it
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11:26am
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alexsmirnov
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balunasj_mtg: Yes, I change status as particular task done.
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11:26am
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ppitonak
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balunasj_mtg: did something significant in config change?
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11:26am
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balunasj_mtg
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pyaschenko: but like https://jira.jboss.org/browse/RF-9215 is that done?
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11:26am
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jbossbot
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jira [RF-9215] CSV: core client side code development [Coding In Progress, Major, Pavel Yaschenko] https://jira.jboss.org/browse/RF-9215
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11:26am
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pyaschenko
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balunasj_mtg: almost done, now i'm testing it
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11:26am
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balunasj_mtg
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i.e. right now it looks like we have a base project in sandbox, and a few things in process, but nothing else done.
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11:27am
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balunasj_mtg
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pyaschenko: ok good - please update when ready
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11:27am
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pyaschenko
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balunasj_mtg: sure
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11:27am
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balunasj_mtg
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pyaschenko: do you think you will be able to make friday code freeze with M4 CSV work?
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11:28am
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balunasj_mtg
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We'll have to follow up on CSV at staff meeting, hopefully there will be more to talk about
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11:29am
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balunasj_mtg
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amarkhel: https://jira.jboss.org/browse/RF-9474 how is tooltip going?
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11:29am
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jbossbot
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jira [RF-9474] Tooltip component [Open, Major, Andrey Markhel] https://jira.jboss.org/browse/RF-9474
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11:30am
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pyaschenko
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balunasj_mtg: Yes, it will be good to discuss it more at staff meeting
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11:31am
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balunasj_mtg
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pyaschenko: alexsmirnov : agreed - it is very important that we have something QE can test, and users can at least play with.
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11:31am
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amarkhel
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tooltip is almost ready I am working with client side code
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11:31am
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balunasj_mtg
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ishaikovsky: do you think req gathers is done for tooltip?
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11:32am
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balunasj_mtg
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amarkhel: who do you think will be a good person to peer review?
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11:32am
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nbelaevski
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balunasj_mtg: abelevich I think
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11:32am
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ishaikovsky
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balunasj_mtg, it's pretty simple from reques point of view.. and it only has some features cut opposite to 3.3.3
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11:32am
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amarkhel
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agree
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11:32am
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ishaikovsky
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balunasj_mtg, thats why not asked for component design meeting.
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11:33am
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abelevich
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ok I will review )
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11:33am
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balunasj_mtg
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ishaikovsky: ok - please update the jira then
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11:33am
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balunasj_mtg
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nbelaevski: abelevich amarkhel : good thanks
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11:33am
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balunasj_mtg
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amarkhel: you are not worried about getting this done by Friday then?
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11:34am
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amarkhel
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I think all will be ready
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11:34am
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balunasj_mtg
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amarkhel: ok great
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11:34am
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balunasj_mtg
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Alex_Kolonitsky: on to panel menu https://jira.jboss.org/browse/RF-9317
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11:34am
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jbossbot
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jira [RF-9317] panelMenu components [Open, Major, Alex Kolonitsky] https://jira.jboss.org/browse/RF-9317
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11:35am
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balunasj_mtg
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Alex_Kolonitsky: does not look like much has been completed?
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11:35am
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edburns_pomodoro is now known as edburns.
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11:37am
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balunasj_mtg
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Alex_Kolonitsky: are you going to make Friday code freeze?
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11:37am
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Alex_Kolonitsky
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sorry, I haven't updated jira status, panelMenu will be ready in a few days, I am working with javascript
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11:37am
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Alex_Kolonitsky
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yes
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11:37am
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balunasj_mtg
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Alex_Kolonitsky: ok, please update jira as things are completed.  I'm glad this will make the release.
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11:38am
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balunasj_mtg
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Konstantin1: And fileupload https://jira.jboss.org/browse/RF-9490
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11:38am
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jbossbot
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jira [RF-9490] FileUpload component [Open, Major, Konstantin Mishin] https://jira.jboss.org/browse/RF-9490
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11:38am
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balunasj_mtg
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Konstantin1: hopefully not too bad after our req/dev meeting last week.  How is progress ?
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11:39am
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Konstantin1
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Server side almost done.
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11:40am
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Konstantin1
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Client side just started.
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11:41am
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balunasj_mtg
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Konstantin1: and timing for code freeze on Friday?
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11:43am
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balunasj_mtg
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We are going to have to multitask to complete meeting in time.  pyaschenko looking at calendar https://jira.jboss.org/browse/RF-9152
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11:43am
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jbossbot
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jira [RF-9152] Calendar Component [Open, Major, Pavel Yaschenko] https://jira.jboss.org/browse/RF-9152
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11:43am
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Konstantin1
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balunasj_mtg: I will try to finish but not feel that  I will  in time.
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11:44am
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balunasj_mtg
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Konstantin1: thank you, please try.  I we will follow up at staff to see progress
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11:45am
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balunasj_mtg
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pyaschenko: I know that amarkhel is assisting with server side.
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11:45am
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balunasj_mtg
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ishaikovsky: Do you feel req is complete for calendar?
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11:45am
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pyaschenko
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balunasj_mtg:Calendar client side is finished, server side -70% done
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11:46am
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balunasj_mtg
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pyaschenko: amarkhel : ok, and lex should be providing markup this week.  Are you waiting on that?
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11:46am
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balunasj_mtg
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amarkhel: Plans to complete the last 30%?
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11:46am
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ishaikovsky
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balunasj_mtg, again list of features for support in first version - finalized and discussed at meeting
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11:47am
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amarkhel
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maybe we can
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11:47am
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edburns is now known as edburns_pomodoro.
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11:47am
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balunasj_mtg
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amarkhel: ok, so we'll also follow up with this at staff.
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11:47am
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pyaschenko
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balunasj_mtg: we use old modified markup, only skinning should be implemented
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11:48am
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edburns_pomodoro is now known as edburns.
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11:49am
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balunasj_mtg
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pyaschenko: ok, please follow up
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11:49am
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pyaschenko
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balunasj_mtg: sure
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11:49am
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balunasj_mtg
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ok
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11:50am
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balunasj_mtg
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nbelaevski: that leave push, and tree
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11:50am
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nbelaevski
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yes
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11:51am
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balunasj_mtg
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nbelaevski: You mentioned you thought push would be wrapping up soon, and then
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11:51am
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nbelaevski
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then tree
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11:51am
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balunasj_mtg
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hopeto get base tree in for Friday/Monday
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11:51am
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balunasj_mtg
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still planning that?
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11:51am
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nbelaevski
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yes, so I'm still getting push wrapped
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11:52am
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nbelaevski
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and hope to get base tree by Monday
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11:52am
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balunasj_mtg
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nbelaevski: ok
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11:53am
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balunasj_mtg
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so that covers components planned
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11:53am
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nbelaevski
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balunasj_mtg: TBH, there are some things that I'd have to postpone in push - that mostly affects unit tests
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11:53am
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alexsmirnov
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balunasj_mtg: As I see from all other components, friday code freeze would be too early.
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11:54am
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: we can discuss shifting to Monday, but would prefer no as that effectively shifts QE by 2 days.
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11:54am
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: plus gives two less days to work on bugs, and stability.
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11:54am
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: but understand what you are saying
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11:54am
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: we'll discuss
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11:54am
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balunasj_mtg
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nbelaevski: ok - if you are concerned lets discuss offline
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11:54am
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nbelaevski
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balunasj_mtg: ok
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11:55am
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balunasj_mtg
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ok
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11:55am
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balunasj_mtg
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So as components are completed I expect everyone to update the QE jira, with information that we discussed in quality meeting last week. 
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11:55am
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balunasj_mtg
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i.e. what is done, what is not done ( should have jira's), and where risk is, etc….
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11:55am
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balunasj_mtg
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This will help everyone to understand what is testable, and ready and what is not.
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11:56am
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balunasj_mtg
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there are a large # of jira's & bugs in the M4 as well.  As you are working through jira, please update them with info as needed.
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11:56am
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balunasj_mtg
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prabhaat: will you guys be ready to start component integration next week for tests?
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11:57am
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balunasj_mtg
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while dev is working on bugs, etc...
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11:57am
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prabhaat
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balunasj_mtg, for new components?
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11:57am
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balunasj_mtg
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prabhaat: exactly
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11:57am
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prabhaat
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balunasj_mtg, yes for sure
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11:57am
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balunasj_mtg
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prabhaat: new component work should be completed by component code freeze
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11:57am
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prabhaat
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balunasj_mtg, http://community.jboss.org/wiki/Metamer-ComponentCoverage describes current status
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11:57am
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balunasj_mtg
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giving you that extra time.
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11:58am
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balunasj_mtg
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prabhaat: execellent  - I'll review
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11:58am
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prabhaat
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balunasj_mtg, so we have all components added in Metamer as of M3 except a4j:hash
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11:58am
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balunasj_mtg
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prabhaat: ok
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11:58am
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prabhaat
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components added does not mean we have automated tests..just that components are there
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11:59am
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prabhaat
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currently we are working on automated tests
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11:59am
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balunasj_mtg
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prabhaat: ok, good to know - is that in the doc?
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11:59am
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11:59am
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prabhaat
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balunasj_mtg, yup..different color code for diff status
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balunasj_mtg
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perfect
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balunasj_mtg
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ok - this is our hard stop
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12:00pm
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prabhaat
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balunasj_mtg, that's one stop shop so you wont even need to ping me on QA status
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12:00pm
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balunasj_mtg
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We will revisit component progress at staff
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12:00pm
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balunasj_mtg
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12:00pm
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balunasj_mtg
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Thanks all