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balunasj_mtg
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Hi All here is the agenda for today http://community.jboss.org/wiki/RichFacesTeamMeetingAgenda11-2-2010
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balunasj_mtg
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I have broken it up into time chunks like we talked about in the last meeting
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balunasj_mtg
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we will be  trying to stick to it as much as possible
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balunasj_mtg
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remember meetings is for syncing up, and focused discussions.
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balunasj_mtg
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impl details ( unless a design meeting ) can be offlin
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alexsmirnov joined the chat room.
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balunasj_mtg
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nbelaevski: yesterday you and I discussed the release plan and I updated the wiki to show the dates for M4
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11:01am
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balunasj_mtg
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I've also posted those dates in the in the agenda
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nbelaevski
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balunasj_mtg: great, thank you!
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balunasj_mtg
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prabhaat: alexsmirnov nbelaevski : etc...  are there any questions on those dates ( it is basically what we've been discussing all along )
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ishaikovsky joined the chat room.
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balunasj_mtg
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component code freeze was better this time, but not everything marked as expected.
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prabhaat
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balunasj_mtg, nope..we know what components are and gong to add them in Metamer
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11:03am
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balunasj_mtg
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prabhaat: excellent - hopefully this will help with final testing for M4 as well.
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ishaikovsky
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hi all guys! sorry for being late
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11:03am
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balunasj_mtg
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so at this point QE should be focused on testing prep, and dev should be working on bug fixes.  Component development should be done for now.
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balunasj_mtg
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ishaikovsky: hi - agenda http://community.jboss.org/wiki/RichFacesTeamMeetingAgenda11-2-2010
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11:04am
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balunasj_mtg
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ishaikovsky: Any questions on the release plan dates?
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11:04am
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ishaikovsky
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balunasj_mtg, already not
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balunasj_mtg
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great
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balunasj_mtg
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We'll shoot for full code freeze for M4 end of day in Minsk on Friday
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11:05am
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balunasj_mtg
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I would like to get the build tagged and staged Friday afternoon, so QE can start in on it first thing monday.
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11:06am
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balunasj_mtg
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So part of what we'll need to do today is discuss jira priorities for bugs etc...
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11:06am
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balunasj_mtg
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but that is a later section
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11:07am
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balunasj_mtg
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If there is nothing else for release plan we can move on to dev status early
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11:07am
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balunasj_mtg
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ok
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11:08am
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balunasj_mtg
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So first thing I would like to got through the components planned and just wrap up anything that is remaining for M4, and clear jira's etc...
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11:08am
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balunasj_mtg
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So first up since alexsmirnov and pyaschenko are here.
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11:09am
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balunasj_mtg
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How is CSV looking - I know you assigned for QE test prep.  Any further work for M4 to go into it?
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11:09am
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balunasj_mtg
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https://jira.jboss.org/browse/RF-8742
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jbossbot
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jira [RF-8742] Client-side validation [Open, Major, Alexander Smirnov] https://jira.jboss.org/browse/RF-8742
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balunasj_mtg
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so for example pyaschenko RF-9215
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11:10am
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jbossbot
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jira [RF-9215] CSV: core client side code development [Coding In Progress, Major, Pavel Yaschenko] https://jira.jboss.org/browse/RF-9215
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11:10am
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balunasj_mtg
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Can that be closed?  is it ready, needs to be broken out into tasks?
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11:11am
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pyaschenko
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balunasj_mtg: RF-9215 - is done but not integrated with server side code
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jbossbot
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jira [RF-9215] CSV: core client side code development [Coding In Progress, Major, Pavel Yaschenko] https://jira.jboss.org/browse/RF-9215
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11:11am
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balunasj_mtg
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pyaschenko: ok so do you think you should resolve this, and have integration jira?
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11:12am
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pyaschenko
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balunasj_mtg: ok
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: Also some things in jira look out of date, like promotion from sandbox.  and code review
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pyaschenko
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http://jira.jboss.com/jira/browse/RF-9521
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jbossbot
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jira [RF-9521] CSV: implements standard JSF converters. [Coding In Progress, Major, Pavel Yaschenko] https://jira.jboss.org/browse/RF-9521
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alexsmirnov
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balunasj_mtg: Migration to trunk is done, all code in trunk.
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pyaschenko
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boolean, byte, short converters and test are done
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pyaschenko
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partially number
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: ok could you update jira when you get a chance
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11:14am
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: I'll shift the doc issues out - Sean is not going to get to it this release
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balunasj_mtg
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pyaschenko: ok, and is this part of the functionality you will work on in M5?
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balunasj_mtg
 
I know there is carry over for M5, would like to identiy and likely break out into individual jira's
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pyaschenko
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balunasj_mtg: yes
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: what do you think about updating and breaking out jira
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balunasj_mtg
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for M5?
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alexsmirnov
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pyaschenko: There is more then 10 standard validators - length, regexp, min/max and others - so it's makes sense to create new jira or extend existing one.
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: Perhaps a separate jira, with sub tasks for each remaing?
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pyaschenko
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alexsmirnov: I think new jira with list of validators, converters and test for it will be good
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pyaschenko
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new jiras
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alexsmirnov
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ok
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balunasj_mtg
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good, lets get the CSV updated, and create the separate jira's for M5
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: for M5, how much functionality will be ready ( knowing about ajax only for now )?
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11:22am
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balunasj_mtg
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abelevich: just to talk in parallel - I see everything is resolved in select, and inplace selct except for test setup.
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alexsmirnov
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balunasj_mtg: At most everything for true client side are done and covered by unit tests.
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balunasj_mtg
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abelevich: So show case examples are in, and you are feeling good about the components?
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alexsmirnov
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So, for M5 it need rich:message and align with client-side code only.
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: Lets discuss at staff meeting about timeframe for completing the CSV - that is very cool
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alexsmirnov
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also, rich:objectValidator imported from 3.3 but did not test.
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: if it is not ready lets keep it out, or at least not publicize it.
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alexsmirnov
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balunasj_mtg: so it is.
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balunasj_mtg
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ok
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balunasj_mtg
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abelevich: ping
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abelevich
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balunasj_mtg: yes the main development is over.  Ilya have found some bugs during showcase creation .. I am working on it. I think except bug with onchange attribute in selects  all over will be fixed during this week
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balunasj_mtg
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abelevich: nice thanks
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alexsmirnov
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The biggest problem that I see now is dynamic loading for scripts and dependencies - https://jira.jboss.org/browse/RF-9612
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jbossbot
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jira [RF-9612] Create JSF 2.0 resource loading extension to dynamically add scripts and its dependencies. [Open, Major, Alexander Smirnov] https://jira.jboss.org/browse/RF-9612
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: looking...
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alexsmirnov
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It also required by other components, so I think it should be in API.
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: how big of a blocker is that?  i.e. can we work around it, or are we stuck with it?
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: Also what is the fallback - bad performance, limited func.?
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nbelaevski
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alexsmirnov: we already have resource libraries that allow to load resources dynamically
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nbelaevski
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alexsmirnov: e.g. ajax.reslib -> AjaxResourceLibrary class
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alexsmirnov
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balunasj_mtg: The biggest problem is loading the same file more then once, that cal break client-side only.
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alexsmirnov
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For example, jsf.js can be loaded by standard components or ajax validator - but there is no legal way to detect what it's already loaded, and tell other components if I load it in validator.
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nbelaevski
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alexsmirnov: IIRC there's a check in built-in resource renderer that encodes resource only once
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nbelaevski
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alexsmirnov: jsf.js is loaded twice sometimes, but that's a known issue of Mojarra
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balunasj_mtg
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amarkhel_: How is tooltip?  Anything major left?
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balunasj_mtg
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amarkhel_: looks ready
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alexsmirnov
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nbelaevski: in RF-9612 I put links to Mojarra/JSF issues related to it. There is also some patches to fix it.
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jbossbot
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jira [RF-9612] Create JSF 2.0 resource loading extension to dynamically add scripts and its dependencies. [Open, Major, Alexander Smirnov] https://jira.jboss.org/browse/RF-9612
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amarkhel_
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Tooltip is completed. Ilya has just finished integration in richfaces-showcase
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nbelaevski
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alexsmirnov: ok, I need to look
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: nbelaevski :  I think we need to take that offline, but there is risk there
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amarkhel_
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I am waiting for the bugs ..
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nbelaevski
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balunasj_mtg: sure ok for offline
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balunasj_mtg
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that is the important think atm.  Identifying the risk, so we can plan time to discuss
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balunasj_mtg
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amarkhel_ pyaschenko : same with Calendar?
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pyaschenko
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balunasj_mtg: calendar is done
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amarkhel_
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yes calendar server side done
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balunasj_mtg
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amarkhel_: assuming you are working on other known issue correct?
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balunasj_mtg
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pyaschenko: amarkhel_ : ok good
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amarkhel_
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yes )
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balunasj_mtg
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FileUpdload and panel menu are slipping to M5
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balunasj_mtg
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Konstantin1: Since fileupload is carry over, and req, and lots of work done we're hoping to get that to QE early in cycle.
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balunasj_mtg
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nbelaevski: That leave push, and tree.  I know you worked crazy late to get them merged.
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balunasj_mtg
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nbelaevski: how did tree come out?
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nbelaevski
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balunasj_mtg: ishaikovsky already added it to showcase
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balunasj_mtg
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nbelaevski: sweet - I'll take a look later today then
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nbelaevski
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balunasj_mtg: I'm commenting out QE task
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balunasj_mtg
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nbelaevski: perfect
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nbelaevski
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https://jira.jboss.org/browse/RF-9457?focusedCommentId=12560897#action_12560897
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jbossbot
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jira [RF-9457] Tree: QE: updating test environment [Open, Major, Lukas Fryc] https://jira.jboss.org/browse/RF-9457
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nbelaevski
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here it is
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Konstantin1
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balunasj_mtg: I think, yes.
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ishaikovsky
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nbelaevski, balunasj_mtg, I'm planning to tune it some more but in general - it works at showcase
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balunasj_mtg
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nbelaevski: good write up for QE
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nbelaevski
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balunasj_mtg: thanks - hope I didn't miss anything vital
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balunasj_mtg
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Konstantin1: ok good - later I would like to go over plans ( likely next week ).
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balunasj_mtg
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nbelaevski: quick look through seems ok, so for this release only javax.swing tree nodes are supported
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nbelaevski
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yes
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balunasj_mtg
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Are there jira's to cover the not implemented items for M5?
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nbelaevski
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user can implement his own data model, but it's likely to be extended in M5
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nbelaevski
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balunasj_mtg: no yet
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balunasj_mtg
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nbelaevski: ok, but planned I sure
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balunasj_mtg
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ok moving on quick - this week the dev team should be focused on bug reports, and stability.
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balunasj_mtg
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I'll be reviewing jira's today, and discussing as needed to make sure we are covering what is needed.
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balunasj_mtg
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If there is a jira that is not realistic, or risky please bring it up to me offline.
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nbelaevski
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balunasj_mtg: yes
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balunasj_mtg
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nbelaevski: Perhaps you and I can discuss jira's later today, or tomorrow
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nbelaevski
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balunasj_mtg: also merged push and created an exampple for it
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nbelaevski
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tbalunasj_mtg: hat'd be good
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nbelaevski
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sorry, that'd be good
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balunasj_mtg
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I saw the push stuff as well - but not looked in detail yet
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balunasj_mtg
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ok, it is time to move on to QE and plans status prabhaat
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prabhaat
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balunasj_mtg, k
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balunasj_mtg
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prabhaat: ok so you have jira's for test prep
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prabhaat
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balunasj_mtg, as I said, we got list of new components and those are currently being added to Metamer
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balunasj_mtg
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prabhaat: should have enough time to get integrated right?
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prabhaat
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balunasj_mtg, i don't know for sure..given that there are new components, uncertainty is more
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prabhaat
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balunasj_mtg, pls Lukas has to be out for medical reason starting Friday and whole next week so that adds to the complexity
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balunasj_mtg
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prabhaat: sure, but hopefully with this week of integration, and the details that should be the QE jiras ( i.e. areas to focus, etc.. )
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prabhaat
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but I knew about that and we will try to get most out of resources and time
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balunasj_mtg
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prabhaat: is
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balunasj_mtg
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balunasj_mtg: ic
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balunasj_mtg
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prabhaat: one thing that we need to QE is tools integration.  What have you been able to do so far, and what is planned?
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prabhaat
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For tools there are Metamer and pagespeed integration
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balunasj_mtg
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prabhaat: I mean - jboss tools IDE
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prabhaat
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oh
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balunasj_mtg
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importing archetypes
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balunasj_mtg
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and examples
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balunasj_mtg
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attempting to deploy to AS 6
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balunasj_mtg
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tomcat
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balunasj_mtg
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from there.
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prabhaat
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balunasj_mtg, no time so far to do integration testing with other projects
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prabhaat
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my take has been that those should get started with CR and onwards
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balunasj_mtg
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prabhaat: ok, so after M5 start to focus more on that?
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balunasj_mtg
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lets discuss more offline
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prabhaat
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balunasj_mtg, yup..that will be better
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balunasj_mtg
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ok
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balunasj_mtg
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That leave the last topic
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balunasj_mtg
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I've created a couple of jira's for JBoss tools so that we can get two things in place
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balunasj_mtg
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1) project template/example for users to easily create app in IDE
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balunasj_mtg
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2) Visual editor integration, and updates palette
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balunasj_mtg
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ishaikovsky: alexsmirnov nbelaevski : I know you guys have more experience here than I.  and alexsmirnov we talked months ago about this.
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: iirc you thought talking with denis locally would be good.
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balunasj_mtg
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what I'm wondering is has anything ben discussed, and do you guys see any obvious issues that I'm missing?
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balunasj_mtg
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https://jira.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-7422
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jbossbot
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jira [JBIDE-7422] Create RichFaces 4.0 & JSF 2.0 project templates [Open, Major, Viacheslav Kabanovich] https://jira.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-7422
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balunasj_mtg
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It looks like they are already creating a project template ( but would like to sync with them )
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balunasj_mtg
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And then https://jira.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-7424
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jbossbot
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jira [JBIDE-7424] Update visual editor palette&&templates to RichFaces 4.0 [Open, Major, Maxim Areshkau] https://jira.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-7424
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balunasj_mtg
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Maxim and Alexey are also working on this, but this might be where denis can assis.
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nbelaevski
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balunasj_mtg: we can discuss with Maxim locally too
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alexsmirnov
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balunasj_mtg: I hope we can coordinate this work with denis.
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prabhaat is now known as prabhat_away.
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balunasj_mtg
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alexsmirnov: can you just talk with denis and sync up to see his thoughts?
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balunasj_mtg
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nbelaevski: Could you do the same locally with Maxim
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nbelaevski
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balunasj_mtg: yes
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balunasj_mtg
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ishaikovsky: is there other tools integration points that I'm missing?
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balunasj_mtg
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templates & palette ?
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ishaikovsky
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3) include our schemas for offline validations
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balunasj_mtg
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ishaikovsky: yup - but that should just "work" once we get them uploaded and XML files reference them - right?
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balunasj_mtg
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ishaikovsky: Although perhaps tools could add the file template with the schema
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ishaikovsky
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balunasj_mtg, them added much schemas to disctribution and that allows to validate XML's without internet connection
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ishaikovsky
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as I remember
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balunasj_mtg
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ishaikovsky: yup - good point - could you create a tools jira and link to the RFPL one for this so we don't lose it?
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ishaikovsky
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sure
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ishaikovsky
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https://jira.jboss.org/browse/RFPL-793
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jbossbot
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jira [RFPL-793] add info for tools team about CDK schemas [Open, Major, Ilya Shaikovsky] https://jira.jboss.org/browse/RFPL-793
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balunasj_mtg
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ok thanks
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ishaikovsky
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already there I just not worked on it
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balunasj_mtg
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no - I mean create a JBIDE jira and link to this one
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balunasj_mtg
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Anything else with tools integration, or any thing else before we end the meeting
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balunasj_mtg
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?
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ishaikovsky
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balunasj_mtg, yes.. that RFPL tells to create JBIDE with info for tools
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ishaikovsky
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seems nothing more from me
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balunasj_mtg
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ishaikovsky: hehe - ok - so can you create the JBIDE jira then?
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12:06pm
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ishaikovsky
:
balunasj_mtg, sure
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12:06pm
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balunasj_mtg
:
thanks
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12:07pm
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balunasj_mtg
:
ok then - lets break since we are a few minutes over.  It
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12:07pm
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balunasj_mtg
:
is my turn to write minutes
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12:07pm
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balunasj_mtg
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so I'll post them asap
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12:07pm
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ishaikovsky
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12:07pm
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ishaikovsky
:
see you guys
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12:07pm
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nbelaevski
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balunasj_mtg: good thanks
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balunasj_mtg
:
Thanks all