balunasj
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Agenda for today http://community.jboss.org/wiki/RichFacesTeamMeetingAgenda12-7-2010
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balunasj
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We'll get started in just a few minutes
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prabhaat
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hello gang
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balunasj
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Hi prabhaat here is the agenda http://community.jboss.org/wiki/RichFacesTeamMeetingAgenda12-7-2010
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balunasj
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and we'll get start in 1-2 min
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prabhaat
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k
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balunasj
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ok everyone  - lets get started
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balunasj
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This is likely to be a short, and sweet kind of meeting.
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balunasj
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Many of the minsk guys are not going to make it today
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balunasj
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prabhaat: Ilya will have all wiki's updated by Friday
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prabhaat
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balunasj, ok
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: how are things progressing with CSV/messages ( I know you have busy on a support ticket )
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balunasj
 
wondering if alexsmirnov is fixing coffee?
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balunasj
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ok, while waiting - prabhaat how is your team doing with the component updates?
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balunasj
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I've seen emails and communication related to it, so assuming its going
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prabhaat
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balunasj, yup it's going well and list of issues have been reported
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balunasj
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prabhaat: ok good - Nick, Ilya, and I will be reviewing jira fully tomorrow to plan out priorities and timing for M5 and CR1
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prabhaat
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balunasj, I have some concern about release date so let's talk when we want to talk about that
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alexsmirnov
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balunasj: Sorry, I was putting baby into clothes - kate is about to drive she to day care ...
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov:   no problem
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balunasj
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we'll cover QE first
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ppitonak
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balunasj: there is one issue that prevents me from writing Selenium tests for popup panel
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balunasj
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prabhaat: any major concerns on M5 at the moment ( we do have the GAE issue that nick is reviewing ).
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balunasj
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ppitonak: link?
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ppitonak
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RF-9889
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jbossbot
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jira [RF-9889] Popup panel: ClassCastException when changing number attributes [Open, Major, Andrey Markhel] https://jira.jboss.org/browse/RF-9889
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alexsmirnov
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CSV going well, hope to finish all on Friday if no more requests lake the last one coming.
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: I certainly hope not to have any more of those either
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: excellent - I look forward to trying it out.
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prabhaat
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balunasj, as per status email, no of bugs found by Palo and Lukas too high for us to validate all of them well in 4 days of testing
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prabhaat
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balunasj, given that code freeze is Dec 17
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prabhaat
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balunasj, that's why I hve proposed release date of 2nd week in Jan
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balunasj
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ppitonak: looking - we'll review after release talk.
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balunasj
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so with a code freeze and release Dec 17th.
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balunasj
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What is holiday plans? looking in calendar
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prabhaat
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balunasj,  Dec 24- Jan 3 everybody is out
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prabhaat
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balunasj, and given holidays, it makes sense to have +/- couple of days extra
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balunasj
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prabhaat: yeah that could be problematic and agree
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balunasj
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( not that holidays are problematic
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balunasj
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so as long as dev is still working on CR1 stability I'm fine with pushing release out.
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balunasj
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It does mean that likely QE will likely only have a week between M5 release and code freeze for CR1 though
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balunasj
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i.e. dev will have been working on CR1 for 3 weeks by then
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balunasj
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prabhaat: are you ok with that?
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balunasj
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i.e. this will be a bunched up release ( internally for QE )
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prabhaat
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balunasj, from CR and onwards, I was planning to have longer release cycle because of emphasis on doc and performance
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prabhaat
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release testing cycle rather
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balunasj
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prabhaat: I'm not talking about QE verification time, but timing from M5 --> CR1 code freeze.
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balunasj
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iirc the plan we worked out have 2 week testing cycles after code freeze
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balunasj
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for the exact reason you said.
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: btw - many of minsk team not here for meeting for various reasons. so likely a short meeting.
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balunasj
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prabhaat: with the change in date for M5 - I'll update the
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prabhaat
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balunasj, ok
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balunasj
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schedule, and send out for comments
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prabhaat
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sounds good
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balunasj
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so for M5 we'll release Jan 10-11
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alexsmirnov
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balunasj: Ok, let's more time to code
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balunasj
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but really Dev will be focused on CR1 since code freeze Dec 17th.
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: +100
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balunasj
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balunasj
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ppitonak: ok lets talk about the blocking issue
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balunasj
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ppitonak: I'll increase the priority and have Andrei look asap ( tomorrow is possible )
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balunasj
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ppitonak: sound ok?
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ppitonak
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balunasj: yes, sounds great
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balunasj
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any other blocking issues for QE?
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balunasj
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or questions, concerns, etc...?
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ppitonak
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balunasj: what about taglib?
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balunasj
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ppitonak: yup - the tag lib files need to be cleaned up for sure.
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ppitonak
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balunasj: ui jar contains a4j.taglib.xml, rich.taglib.xml, faces-config.xml and pn.faces-config.xml
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ppitonak
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balunasj: shouldn't be all these in sync?
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balunasj
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ppitonak: exactly, and part of the clean up that is needed.
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ppitonak
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balunasj: atm there is no way how to get list of attributes of a component
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balunasj
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ppitonak: have you created jira's for them - I'm sorry I don't rememeber atm.
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ppitonak
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balunasj: I created one jira
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ppitonak
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balunasj: there are lot of problems
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ppitonak
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balunasj: should I create one jira covering all problems in taglib?
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: do you have any idea how these got messed up?  Likely just cut/paste issues I would guess
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ppitonak
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balunasj: alexsmirnov is taglig generated or it is manually created?
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ppitonak
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taglib
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balunasj
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ppitonak: perhaps sub tasks to identify specific issues.
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balunasj
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ppitonak: it is a mixture
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balunasj
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tag lib is from CDK mostly.
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alexsmirnov
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balunasj: Probably so. Also, CDK could generate some unexpected attributes.
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: yup
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ppitonak
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balunasj: it would be great if taglib is fixed asap (no later than CR1)
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lfryc_lunch is now known as lfryc.
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balunasj
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ppitonak: So if you could add some sub-tasks to the one you created - I'll start taking a look this afternoon if possible - and have others as well.
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ppitonak
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balunasj: ok
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balunasj
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ppitonak: btw - link to jira?
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ppitonak
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RF-9918
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jbossbot
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jira [RF-9918] Some components in two namespaces [Open, Major, Nick Belaevski] https://jira.jboss.org/browse/RF-9918
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balunasj
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ppitonak: ok - so this would likely be a sub-task for a broader issue
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balunasj
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ppitonak: if you know what I mean
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ppitonak
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balunasj: sure
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balunasj
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ok - anything else for QE at this time?
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ppitonak
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balunasj: subTable and subTableTogglePanel were renamed?
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ppitonak
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I mean subTableToggleControl
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balunasj
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ppitonak: hmm, that I'll need to reivew and talk with others on - is this new?  I'm assuming this breaks tests, and then needs to be updated?
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ppitonak
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balunasj: it doesn't breaks tests because we don't have tests for them
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ppitonak
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balunasj: but Metamer nor Showcase work
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ppitonak
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balunasj: dev should notify QE about such big changes
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balunasj
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ppitonak: agree - and that is what I need to look into
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balunasj
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do you know when you first say this?
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ppitonak
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balunasj
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sorry - when did this first show up?
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ppitonak
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balunasj: today morning
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ppitonak
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balunasj: since we don't have tests yet, it was a coincidence that I find it out
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balunasj
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ok I understand
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balunasj
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prabhaat ppitonak: anything else?
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ppitonak
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balunasj: no
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prabhaat
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lfryc, can you think of anything else?
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prabhaat
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balunasj, otherwise no..hands are full
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balunasj
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lfryc: oh - sorry just saw you came back
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balunasj
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ok I understand
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balunasj
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alright, so back to dev Items for now.
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balunasj
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Nick found a GAE issue which could be related to the Ajax issues we were seeing during testing.
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balunasj
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It is somehow related to GAE update ( although that might have just made the issue more obvious )
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balunasj
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Nick is going to review more, but it might require an upgrade to mojarra 2.0.4
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balunasj
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I am investigating their release ( mojarra's)
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balunasj
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plans
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balunasj
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The good news is that we might be able to announce GAE, the bad is that we might need to update JSf.
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balunasj
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so this is just a heads up, and we'll know more after investigatiing.
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balunasj
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prabhaat: What would be the impact of updating Mojarra version?
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alexsmirnov
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balunasj: Do ve have to break pre-2.0.4 compatibility, or just update JSF version for GAE war ?
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prabhaat
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balunasj, you mean add new version as well as old ones?
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: that is part of discussion I think
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prabhaat
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oops add new and keep old ones?
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balunasj
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prabhaat: the options would be :
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balunasj
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1) Upgrade JSF to 2.0.4 only
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balunasj
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2) Leave at 2.0.3, but have instructions for GAE support for 2.0.4
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balunasj
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3) support both
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prabhaat
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balunasj, if 2.0.4 is more stable for GAE, then just do 1
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balunasj
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prabhaat: right - that is what I would prefer depending on what we find during review
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prabhaat
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balunasj, we have more flexibility on lib version that we support until we are not GA
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prabhaat
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afterway, we have to be more careful with backward
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balunasj
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sure
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balunasj
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ok - so that is all I have for agenda - does anyone else have any issues to bring up?
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alexsmirnov
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prabhaat: Agree, JSF is part of Glassfish/Jboss etc servers, that could have different versions in the box.
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balunasj
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that is also part of what I need to determine - AS 6 is shipping with 2.0.3 I believe - the question would be if they need to update
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alexsmirnov
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prabhaat: do you use HtmlUnit in tests ? I'm going to update it to 2.8 in the next jsf-test release. I'm using it for CSV javascript tests.
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prabhaat
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alexsmirnov, nope..we use selenium and I don't think sel has dependency on htmlunit
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: That is something we should discuss in relation to JSFUnit as well.
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: There are some issues Stan would like us to look at related to htmlUnit
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balunasj
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I was going to review then and discuss during jira review
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alexsmirnov
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balunasj: Yes, I remember the problems with JsfUnit. But we use jsf-test and htmlunit for build only - it doesn't going to library dependencies.
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balunasj
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alexsmirnov: right, but I think stans issues were more around
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balunasj
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component rendering - that is what I'm going to review
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balunasj
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ok - anything else?
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balunasj
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ok then - thanks all.  Ilya will work on minutes tomorrow.