no seam . pure jsf.
(i can`t write english exactly).

i want to learn how i can access to jBPM and deploy processdefinition and start it without seam or gravel or jbpm4jsf ... .

i mean, if i want to use a jBPM app and i don`t want use jBPM console how to i can use jbmp(for deploy and start ,...).
tanxxxx

<ui:composition template="../sa/t_loggedin.xhtml">
<ui:define name="actions">
<ga:responseActions>
<j4j:listProcesses target="#{proclist}"/>
<ga:parameter name="page" target="#{page}" default="1">
<f:convertNumber integerOnly="true"/>




this is a part of jbpm-console -->processes.xhtml
which tag in jsf replaced by <j4j:listProcesses or <ga: .....??

????

what i can to do.

i dont want use gravel(ga:...) or jbpm4jsf(j4j:..) which tag in JFS can replace with this tags.

jbpm4jsf-----> <j4j:listProcesses
jsf------------>?



:((

which ide do you use for develope jBPM , seam and jsf?.

for seam ,i use myeclipse 5.0.1 and SeamTools-2.0.0.beta3 .but doset work seam.

and do you have gravel and j4j plugin for eclipse?

tanx a lot for your response.

tanx - verry tanx kukeltje