5 Replies Latest reply on Aug 21, 2009 9:37 AM by steeqs4

    BPEL and jBPM4

      Hello,

      sorry if I overlooked something somewhere, but it seems the latest doc on BPEL and jBPM only mentions jBPM v3

      plus it is BPEL version 1.1

      when I looked in the forum I did not find any clear references with BPEL and JBPM 4

      in JIRA I think next version for BPEL is 1.2
      https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/BPEL/fixforversion/12311039

      but some of the opened bugs dates from 2 or three years, and still unresolved

      hence my questions : is this project discontinued? is it possible to use BPEL with jBPM 4 (plus : outside of jBoss ) ? where do I find a tutorial? a piece of not stale doc ?

        • 1. Re: BPEL and jBPM4
          steeqs4

          I have the same question. I'm trying to migrate some customers using Glassfish/BPEL to JBoss/jBPM. Having BPEL support in JBoss is important for the migration. In the long run we want to move everyone to BPMN so I want to start with jBPM v4 which is the first version to support BPMN. However, when I try deploying the BPEL ear to JBoss 5.1 (required by jbpm 4) I get this error: org.jboss.xb.binding.JBossXBRuntimeException: Element {http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/j2ee}application is not bound as a global element.

          • 2. Re: BPEL and jBPM4
            kukeltje

            jBPM4 does not have bpel, nor will it. The choice was made to go a different direction for bpel: https://www.jboss.org/riftsaw

            • 3. Re: BPEL and jBPM4

              steeqs4, if you could answer, I would be interested in what you did with Glassfish/BPEL, since Glassfish is my target :

              _ did you need additional components to Glassfish ? like OpenESB ?
              _ does your solution have a persistence service ? (or something that remembers when a process was stopped in case of failure or so)
              _ did you find sufficient documentation ?
              _ except it is not BPMN, are you globally satisfied with this solution ?

              • 4. Re: BPEL and jBPM4
                kukeltje

                @npirard: questions about other bpel engines are probably better asked in the respective forums/mailinglist

                @steeqs4: you have wrong info.
                - jBPM4 can run on jboss 4.2.x, it is just not tested by the team, probably needs some tweeking here and there
                - jBPM4 at the moment just uses the graphical notation of BPMN, BPMN2 support as an executable language is under development

                • 5. Re: BPEL and jBPM4
                  steeqs4

                  @kukeltje: Thanks, I didn't know about riftsaw and was just coming to that realization wrt BPMN.