6 Replies Latest reply on Mar 17, 2004 5:33 AM by Andrea Bondi

    Axis Soap over JMS to build a listener for uncommon service

    Andrea Bondi Newbie

      Hi to all.
      I posted yesterday a message: http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&t=46934 and I'd like to ask if I'm proceeding the right way.

      So, to resolve my problem, I should use: Apache Axis(Soap) over JMS.
      The problem is that I must connect to the port 8000 to a server that doesn't use http but a proprietary protocol, which I can't modify. Moreover I can't change the way the server communicates with me.

      To make it clearer, now I use it through a telnet connection writing commands and waiting for the asynchronous response. Is it possible using these technologies?

      Do you have some links/examples?

      Thank you, I'm really studying hard J2EE but it's so huge I'd like not to waste time moving towards something unuseful!:)

      Regards,
      Andrea

        • 1. Re: Axis Soap over JMS to build a listener for uncommon serv
          Adrian Brock Master

          You did not understand my comment.
          I said Axis has SOAP over JMS that uses the correlation id/replyto processing.
          Not that you should SOAP, it was an example.

          Regards,
          Adrian

          • 2. Re: Axis Soap over JMS to build a listener for uncommon serv
            Andrea Bondi Newbie

            Ok, I didn't understand...
            uhm...
            I still don't understand!:(

            You're really helping me and I don't want to waste your time, but I don't see the way to resolve the problem.
            I don't have access to the server machine. To define better the problem I'll write a sample telnet session I use now:

            Me:
            telnet 8000
            ...
            login:****
            password:****
            [I write some commands for setting up the way I am working, the connection use a proprietary protocol]
            SendMode
            Report=true

            Server:
            OK

            Me: [now I send a new message]
            Send
            Dest=391241241
            Body=Hello Everybody

            Server:
            MsgID=1254515 [a unique ID assigned by the server]
            OK

            Me: [send some other messages]
            Send
            Dest=28709217
            Body=bla foo bar

            Server:
            MsgID=3097519
            OK

            [Now I stay logged in and when the status of a message changes the server notifies me with a message preceeded by"!"]
            Server:
            !StatusInd
            !MsgID=1254515
            !Status=in queue
            ![other informations about the message]
            !OK

            Me:
            Logout

            And the connection finishes.

            Can I manage all these StatusInd with a Message-Driven Bean and a JMS, even if the server doesn't work with Java but in this proprietary way?

            Thank you and everybody who will reply for helping a J2EE newbie!

            Andrea

            • 3. Re: Axis Soap over JMS to build a listener for uncommon serv
              Andrea Bondi Newbie

              Ok, I didn't understand...
              uhm...
              I still don't understand!:(

              You're really helping me and I don't want to waste your time, but I don't see the way to resolve the problem.
              I don't have access to the server machine. To define better the problem I'll write a sample telnet session I use now:

              Me:
              telnet server 8000
              login:****
              password:****
              [I write some commands for setting up the way I am working, the connection use a proprietary protocol]
              SendMode
              Report=true

              Server:
              OK

              Me: [now I send a new message]
              Send
              Dest=391241241
              Body=Hello Everybody

              Server:
              MsgID=1254515 [a unique ID assigned by the server]
              OK

              Me: [send some other messages]
              Send
              Dest=28709217
              Body=bla foo bar

              Server:
              MsgID=3097519
              OK

              [Now I stay logged in and when the status of a message changes the server notifies me with a message preceeded by"!"]
              Server:
              !StatusInd
              !MsgID=1254515
              !Status=in queue
              ![other informations about the message]
              !OK

              Me:
              Logout

              And the connection finishes.

              Can I manage all these StatusInd with a Message-Driven Bean and a JMS, even if the server doesn't work with Java but in this proprietary way?

              Thank you and everybody who will reply for helping a J2EE newbie!

              Andrea

              • 4. Re: Axis Soap over JMS to build a listener for uncommon serv
                Adrian Brock Master

                This has nothing to do with JMS. I thought you were talking about the contents
                of a JMS Message.

                You'll have to write it yourself.

                Regards,
                Adrian

                • 5. Re: Axis Soap over JMS to build a listener for uncommon serv
                  Andrea Bondi Newbie

                  :(
                  I'm really sad because I was charmed by JMS technology. I'll try to use it in some way to solve another problem, for now I'll look for technologies I could use to solve this one.

                  Any suggestion?
                  Connectors, Sockets, anything?

                  I promise, this is the last time I talk about this!:)
                  But J2EE is so huge that I'd like at least some suggestions on what to study!

                  Bye, Thank you!

                  Andrea

                  • 6. Re: Axis Soap over JMS to build a listener for uncommon serv
                    Andrea Bondi Newbie

                    I thought about resolving the problem with JMS because it was studied to resolve asynchronous message delivery, which is what I'm trying to achieve.

                    I've looked around and found a probable implementation architecture. Could you please tell me if I'm getting some concepts wrong?

                    1- my customer decides to send some messages he wants to send [to better understand, I'll call them SMS] through the interface I developed
                    2- a new JMS Message is created
                    3- a MDB wake up and performs the initial steps to connect throught native calls
                    4- new MDB wake up and, using the connection, send created SMS
                    5- another process use the connection to read the StatusInd and create a new JMS Message to describe the message status

                    My implementation doubt is that I must send a lot of SMS (around 4000 SMS in one action), so, in pass 4, should I create 4000 MDB instances? It should be a clean implementation, maybe this way I could use also correlation id/replyto headers in passage 5, but I would it waste many resources?

                    And, also, how can I implement the "native calls"? Is there a way to create a class that support this proprietary protocol?

                    And what about creating the connections with the server? Should I use java.net.socket?

                    Really thank you,
                    Andrea