Hello.

I'm sure i used to be able to simply remove this service from the deploy dir and startup would work fine.

On JBoss 3.2.5 i get the following errors:

13:35:36,812 ERROR [Engine] StandardContext[/web-console]Servlet /web-console threw load() exception
javax.servlet.ServletException
 at org.jboss.console.plugins.helpers.ServletPluginHelper.init(ServletPluginHelper.java:66)
 at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapper.loadServlet(StandardWrapper.java:1019)
 at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapper.load(StandardWrapper.java:862)
 at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.loadOnStartup(StandardContext.java:3991)

...

java.lang.NullPointerException
 at EDU.oswego.cs.dl.util.concurrent.ConcurrentReaderHashMap.hash(ConcurrentReaderHashMap.java:298)
 at EDU.oswego.cs.dl.util.concurrent.ConcurrentReaderHashMap.get(ConcurrentReaderHashMap.java:410)
 at org.jboss.system.Registry.lookup(Registry.java:51)
 at org.jboss.console.plugins.helpers.AbstractPluginWrapper.findPluginManager(AbstractPluginWrapper.java:252)
 at org.jboss.console.plugins.helpers.AbstractPluginWrapper.init(AbstractPluginWrapper.java:98)
 at org.jboss.console.plugins.helpers.ServletPluginHelper.init(ServletPluginHelper.java:61)
 at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapper.loadServlet(StandardWrapper.java:1019)
 at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapper.load(StandardWrapper.java:862)
 at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.loadOnStartup(StandardContext.java:3991)
 at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.start(StandardContext.java:4335)
 at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.

...

13:35:37,640 ERROR [URLDeploymentScanner] Incomplete Deployment listing:
MBeans waiting for other MBeans:
ObjectName: jboss.admin:service=PluginManager
 state: CONFIGURED
 I Depend On: jboss.jmx:type=adaptor,name=Invoker,protocol=jrmp,service=proxyFactory

 Depends On Me:

MBEANS THAT ARE THE ROOT CAUSE OF THE PROBLEM:
ObjectName: jboss.jmx:type=adaptor,name=Invoker,protocol=jrmp,service=proxyFactory
 state: NOTYETINSTALLED
 I Depend On:
 Depends On Me: jboss.admin:service=PluginManager

ok so the web-console needs it (nasty error in ConcurrentReaderHashMap though?)

Removing deploy/management/web-console.war i still get:
No exceptions

13:49:29,625 ERROR [URLDeploymentScanner] Incomplete Deployment listing:
MBeans waiting for other MBeans:
ObjectName: jboss.admin:service=PluginManager
 state: CONFIGURED
 I Depend On: jboss.jmx:type=adaptor,name=Invoker,protocol=jrmp,service=proxyFactory

 Depends On Me:

MBEANS THAT ARE THE ROOT CAUSE OF THE PROBLEM:
ObjectName: jboss.jmx:type=adaptor,name=Invoker,protocol=jrmp,service=proxyFactory
 state: NOTYETINSTALLED
 I Depend On:
 Depends On Me: jboss.admin:service=PluginManager

I doubt i can remove the pluginmanager?
Is it true that we can't live without jmx-invoker-adaptor-server.sar?

cheers