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    [10:02pm] serogers: Hi everyone

    [10:02pm] balunasj: serogers: Hi
    [10:02pm] balunasj: serogers: how are things south of the equator?
    [10:03pm] serogers: Fine, how about north?
    [10:03pm] balunasj: Not bad - summer's been great, and waiting for fall - and american football
    [10:04pm] balunasj: I know you want to talk about reviews
    [10:04pm] balunasj: I would like to make sure we are all set for M2 release from both a build, and basic content side
    [10:05pm] serogers: Sure
    [10:05pm] balunasj: serogers: So lets start with just a general status on how things are looking for M2
    [10:05pm] balunasj: ?
    [10:06pm] serogers: Fairly good I think. I've had a few delays with computer troubles but should be able to get back on track
    [10:06pm] balunasj: ok good
    [10:06pm] • balunasj bringing up jira
    [10:07pm] balunasj: serogers: now that the majority of the build changes are in - have you been able to review them, make sure they are running?
    [10:08pm] serogers: Yes, they look OK so far
    [10:08pm] balunasj: ok good
    [10:08pm] balunasj: I will be spending most of the day in the build, and will take a look as well.
    [10:09pm] balunasj: What have you been able to add, and what do you need reviewed?
    [10:11pm] serogers: I have added a lot of the content for the panel-type components
    [10:11pm] balunasj: good
    [10:11pm] serogers: I can put together a list of what needs reviewing
    [10:11pm] balunasj: where you able to get to others?
    [10:11pm] balunasj: perfect
    [10:11pm] balunasj: I thinking that an RFPL jira will likely be the best place for this.
    [10:12pm] serogers: OK, no problem
    [10:12pm] balunasj: How much content do you feel needs to be reviewed?
    [10:12pm] balunasj: estimate
    [10:13pm] serogers: About 2 chapters I think
    [10:13pm] serogers: 2 or 3
    [10:13pm] balunasj: ok
    [10:14pm] balunasj: Any luck with the script for bundling docs?  I know you had some questions on javadoc stuff.
    [10:16pm] serogers: I haven't looked into it further. I'm not sure how the javadoc stuff works now
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    [10:17pm] balunasj: ok, that can be pushed to M3 I think, but I will attempt to look at it as I review build today.
    [10:17pm] nbelaevski: hello all
    [10:17pm] nbelaevski: sorry for being late
    [10:17pm] serogers: Hi nbelaevski
    [10:17pm] nbelaevski: serogers: hi
    [10:18pm] balunasj: nbelaevski: hi Nick
    [10:18pm] ilya_shaikovsky joined the chat room.
    [10:18pm] ilya_shaikovsky: hello all!
    [10:18pm] ilya_shaikovsky: sorry, forgot about meeting
    [10:19pm] serogers: Hi ilya_shaikovsky
    [10:19pm] balunasj: ilya_shaikovsky: Hi
    [10:19pm] balunasj: We have talked about what Sean has ready for review
    [10:19pm] balunasj: He is going to create an RFPL jira with details, and then I figure the three of us ( + developer ) can review them.
    [10:20pm] ilya_shaikovsky: sounds good
    [10:20pm] serogers: Should I assign to you, balunasj?
    [10:20pm] balunasj: We also touch base on build updates, and bundling script for docs.  If required we can push that, and deploy docs as we did in M1
    [10:20pm] balunasj: serogers: yes
    [10:21pm] balunasj: serogers: Do you feel you are getting enough information on components to document them?
    [10:21pm] ilya_shaikovsky: serogers, if there are much to review in general?
    [10:22pm] balunasj: serogers: Have you run into issues with this?
    [10:22pm] serogers: Not too much, about 2 or 3 chapters
    [10:22pm] ilya_shaikovsky: balunasj, asking because I'm really not sure that we all need to check them(only if has much time  ).. I could deal with most I believe asking proper persons if need
    [10:23pm] balunasj: ilya_shaikovsky: that would be helpful if you could give them a first review
    [10:23pm] ilya_shaikovsky: balunasj, yup wanted to propose that
    [10:24pm] balunasj: ilya_shaikovsky: yeah - thanks
    [10:24pm] ilya_shaikovsky: in order the guys could work on finalizing the development without additional duties
    [10:24pm] balunasj: ilya_shaikovsky: ok
    [10:26pm] balunasj: serogers: Not sure if you saw the minutes ( nice write up nbelaevski  ) but code freeze shifted a week
    [10:26pm] balunasj: serogers: so instead of this friday it is next friday
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    [10:26pm] balunasj: with a mock release next tuesday to verify.
    [10:26pm] serogers: Yeah I did see that
    [10:27pm] balunasj: serogers: How many of the remaining jira's do you think you will be able to complete?
    [10:27pm] serogers: I think I can do them all by next Friday
    [10:28pm] ilya_shaikovsky: serogers, RF-8830 - not in M2
    [10:28pm] jbossbot: jira [RF-8830] CollapsiblePanel component reference/guide documentation [Open, Major, Sean Rogers]
    [10:28pm] balunasj: serogers: nice
    [10:29pm] ilya_shaikovsky: I believe.. at least not 100%
    [10:29pm] serogers: OK
    [10:29pm] nbelaevski: also what about inpaceSelect? is it already described?
    [10:29pm] ilya_shaikovsky: nbelaevski, it's not for M2 also I believe??
    [10:29pm] ilya_shaikovsky: inplaceInput?
    [10:30pm] serogers: I have done inplaceSelect and inplaceInput, but they aren't reviewed
    [10:30pm] nbelaevski: sorry, input
    [10:30pm] balunasj: nbelaevski:   I do not think the correct jira's were created for those
    [10:30pm] balunasj: nbelaevski: i.e. following the jira guidelines from Ilya
    [10:31pm] nbelaevski: balunasj: Anton is saying they should be there, let me check...
    [10:31pm] balunasj: nbelaevski: perhaps not assigned yet then
    [10:32pm] balunasj: nbelaevski: it looks like InputNumberSlider has no sub-tasks
    [10:33pm] balunasj: and the other two inplace* have the core sub-tasks, but not linked to the a doc, or QE prep jira.
    [10:36pm] nbelaevski: ok, I see
    [10:37pm] balunasj: nbelaevski: please have the guys get them in, and assign to Sean.  It will help him track.
    [10:39pm] balunasj: serogers: the only other thing I had was to discuss reviews for distribution readme.txt
    [10:39pm] nbelaevski: balunasj: ok
    [10:39pm] balunasj: and items like that.
    [10:39pm] balunasj: ilya_shaikovsky : it might be best for you to create a jira outlining what you would like him to review.
    [10:40pm] serogers: That sounds good
    [10:40pm] ilya_shaikovsky: balunasj, seems reasonable
    [10:40pm] balunasj: That way we can be on the same page and get it reviewed before tagging the release.
    [10:40pm] balunasj: anything else guys?
    [10:41pm] nbelaevski: generated documentation for components
    [10:41pm] balunasj: nbelaevski: ah yes - your thoughts on it?
    [10:42pm] nbelaevski: so, we need to provide tags/attributes/events/facets documentation
    [10:42pm] nbelaevski: let me find example for Mojarra....
    [10:44pm] nbelaevski: sorry, but cannot find it
    [10:44pm] nbelaevski: so we can use TLDDoc template or beautify it
    [10:45pm] nbelaevski: what's bad about std. template is that it isn't aware of JSF-specific things like facets
    [10:45pm] nbelaevski: so I suggest to refine its structure to get this information in
    [10:46pm] balunasj: How much effort is that?
    [10:47pm] nbelaevski: CDK generates XML with all the necessary information, we just need to update XSLT templates that TLDDoc uses - or create completely new templates
    [10:47pm] balunasj: nbelaevski: could we "recycle" RI's ?
    [10:47pm] nbelaevski: effort consists of developing structure in the form of HTML template
    [10:48pm] nbelaevski: balunasj: yes, but non-JSP information will be missing
    [10:49pm] nbelaevski: balunasj: facet names, supported events
    [10:49pm] balunasj: ic
    [10:49pm] nbelaevski: and if we get HTML template, it's easy to make XSLT template
    [10:49pm] nbelaevski: the next part of the work is content development
    [10:50pm] balunasj: serogers: Do you have any experience with html?  Is this something you might be able to help with?
    [10:50pm] balunasj: nbelaevski: unless you had someone else in mind?
    [10:50pm] nbelaevski: Ilya & Sean can work with attributes/components descriptions
    [10:50pm] serogers: Not a lot
    [10:51pm] nbelaevski: balunasj: serogers: maybe there's something ready at content group?
    [10:51pm] serogers: I don't believe so, but not sure
    [10:51pm] nbelaevski: AFAIK, they have provided styles for HTML documentation - maybe there's smth. for tag docs there too?
    [10:53pm] nbelaevski: looks very good
    [10:54pm] balunasj: nbelaevski: yeah that page has always look good.
    [10:54pm] balunasj: so serogers can you see if the doc team has anything like these templates?
    [10:55pm] serogers: I will see, but I don't think anyone is doing anything similar
    [10:55pm] nbelaevski: looking at this doc. I wish we find the plugin they used...
    [10:55pm] balunasj: If they don't nbelaevski how much work is updating the template?
    [10:55pm] nbelaevski: 2-3 days I think
    [10:56pm] balunasj: nbelaevski: Who do you think could work on it from the dev team?  We have some time next week - but I know me, you, alex, etc... are busy
    [10:57pm] nbelaevski: Ilya & me?
    [10:57pm] balunasj: nbelaevski: if you think there will be time
    [10:59pm] nbelaevski: balunasj: let's try what we have here
    [10:59pm] nbelaevski: and see
    [11:00pm] balunasj: nbelaevski: ok
    [11:01pm] nbelaevski: the next part is content development
    [11:01pm] serogers: Any more to discuss?
    [11:02pm] balunasj: serogers: You may need to work with ilya_shaikovsky on content for the tld's
    [11:02pm] nbelaevski: ilya_shaikovsky: serogers: how do you think we distribute this work?
    [11:02pm] serogers: OK
    [11:02pm] balunasj: ilya_shaikovsky: Perhaps you rough draft, then sean can review & update, or just split it up, etc...
    [11:03pm] nbelaevski: balunasj: for me this sounds good
    [11:03pm] serogers: rough draft then review sounds good
    [11:05pm] balunasj: serogers: ilya_shaikovsky : please discuss as needed offline, and let us know if you need review, or assistance with the content.
    [11:05pm] balunasj: nbelaevski: If you and ilya_shaikovsky feel you'll have time for template stuff great, but I don't think that is a huge priority for M2.
    [11:05pm] serogers: OK
    [11:05pm] nbelaevski: balunasj: ok
    [11:05pm] balunasj: Alright guys - that is about all the time I've got for now - I better get going.
    [11:06pm] serogers: OK, thanks everyone
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    [11:08pm] nbelaevski: thanks