[10:02pm] balunasj: serogers: Hi

[10:02pm] balunasj: serogers: how are things south of the equator?

[10:03pm] serogers: Fine, how about north?

[10:03pm] balunasj: Not bad - summer's been great, and waiting for fall - and american football

[10:04pm] balunasj: I know you want to talk about reviews

[10:04pm] balunasj: I would like to make sure we are all set for M2 release from both a build, and basic content side

[10:05pm] serogers: Sure

[10:05pm] balunasj: serogers: So lets start with just a general status on how things are looking for M2

[10:05pm] balunasj: ?

[10:06pm] serogers: Fairly good I think. I've had a few delays with computer troubles but should be able to get back on track

[10:06pm] balunasj: ok good

[10:06pm] • balunasj bringing up jira

[10:07pm] balunasj: serogers: now that the majority of the build changes are in - have you been able to review them, make sure they are running?

[10:08pm] serogers: Yes, they look OK so far

[10:08pm] balunasj: ok good

[10:08pm] balunasj: I will be spending most of the day in the build, and will take a look as well.

[10:09pm] balunasj: What have you been able to add, and what do you need reviewed?

[10:11pm] serogers: I have added a lot of the content for the panel-type components

[10:11pm] balunasj: good

[10:11pm] serogers: I can put together a list of what needs reviewing

[10:11pm] balunasj: where you able to get to others?

[10:11pm] balunasj: perfect

[10:11pm] balunasj: I thinking that an RFPL jira will likely be the best place for this.

[10:12pm] serogers: OK, no problem

[10:12pm] balunasj: How much content do you feel needs to be reviewed?

[10:12pm] balunasj: estimate

[10:13pm] serogers: About 2 chapters I think

[10:13pm] serogers: 2 or 3

[10:13pm] balunasj: ok

[10:14pm] balunasj: Any luck with the script for bundling docs?  I know you had some questions on javadoc stuff.

[10:16pm] serogers: I haven't looked into it further. I'm not sure how the javadoc stuff works now

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[10:17pm] balunasj: ok, that can be pushed to M3 I think, but I will attempt to look at it as I review build today.

[10:17pm] nbelaevski: hello all

[10:17pm] nbelaevski: sorry for being late

[10:17pm] serogers: Hi nbelaevski

[10:17pm] nbelaevski: serogers: hi

[10:18pm] balunasj: nbelaevski: hi Nick

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[10:18pm] ilya_shaikovsky: hello all!

[10:18pm] ilya_shaikovsky: sorry, forgot about meeting

[10:19pm] serogers: Hi ilya_shaikovsky

[10:19pm] balunasj: ilya_shaikovsky: Hi

[10:19pm] balunasj: We have talked about what Sean has ready for review

[10:19pm] balunasj: He is going to create an RFPL jira with details, and then I figure the three of us ( + developer ) can review them.

[10:20pm] ilya_shaikovsky: sounds good

[10:20pm] serogers: Should I assign to you, balunasj?

[10:20pm] balunasj: We also touch base on build updates, and bundling script for docs.  If required we can push that, and deploy docs as we did in M1

[10:20pm] balunasj: serogers: yes

[10:21pm] balunasj: serogers: Do you feel you are getting enough information on components to document them?

[10:21pm] ilya_shaikovsky: serogers, if there are much to review in general?

[10:22pm] balunasj: serogers: Have you run into issues with this?

[10:22pm] serogers: Not too much, about 2 or 3 chapters

[10:22pm] ilya_shaikovsky: balunasj, asking because I'm really not sure that we all need to check them(only if has much time  ).. I could deal with most I believe asking proper persons if need

[10:23pm] balunasj: ilya_shaikovsky: that would be helpful if you could give them a first review

[10:23pm] ilya_shaikovsky: balunasj, yup wanted to propose that

[10:24pm] balunasj: ilya_shaikovsky: yeah - thanks

[10:24pm] ilya_shaikovsky: in order the guys could work on finalizing the development without additional duties

[10:24pm] balunasj: ilya_shaikovsky: ok

[10:26pm] balunasj: serogers: Not sure if you saw the minutes ( nice write up nbelaevski  ) but code freeze shifted a week

[10:26pm] balunasj: serogers: so instead of this friday it is next friday

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[10:26pm] balunasj: with a mock release next tuesday to verify.

[10:26pm] serogers: Yeah I did see that

[10:27pm] balunasj: serogers: How many of the remaining jira's do you think you will be able to complete?

[10:27pm] serogers: I think I can do them all by next Friday

[10:28pm] ilya_shaikovsky: serogers, RF-8830 - not in M2

[10:28pm] balunasj: serogers: nice

[10:29pm] ilya_shaikovsky: I believe.. at least not 100%

[10:29pm] serogers: OK

[10:29pm] nbelaevski: also what about inpaceSelect? is it already described?

[10:29pm] ilya_shaikovsky: nbelaevski, it's not for M2 also I believe??

[10:29pm] ilya_shaikovsky: inplaceInput?

[10:30pm] serogers: I have done inplaceSelect and inplaceInput, but they aren't reviewed

[10:30pm] nbelaevski: sorry, input

[10:30pm] balunasj: nbelaevski:   I do not think the correct jira's were created for those

[10:30pm] balunasj: nbelaevski: i.e. following the jira guidelines from Ilya

[10:31pm] nbelaevski: balunasj: Anton is saying they should be there, let me check...

[10:31pm] balunasj: nbelaevski: perhaps not assigned yet then

[10:32pm] balunasj: nbelaevski: it looks like InputNumberSlider has no sub-tasks

[10:33pm] balunasj: and the other two inplace* have the core sub-tasks, but not linked to the a doc, or QE prep jira.

[10:36pm] nbelaevski: ok, I see

[10:37pm] balunasj: nbelaevski: please have the guys get them in, and assign to Sean.  It will help him track.

[10:39pm] balunasj: serogers: the only other thing I had was to discuss reviews for distribution readme.txt

[10:39pm] nbelaevski: balunasj: ok

[10:39pm] balunasj: and items like that.

[10:39pm] balunasj: ilya_shaikovsky : it might be best for you to create a jira outlining what you would like him to review.

[10:40pm] serogers: That sounds good

[10:40pm] ilya_shaikovsky: balunasj, seems reasonable

[10:40pm] balunasj: That way we can be on the same page and get it reviewed before tagging the release.

[10:40pm] balunasj: anything else guys?

[10:41pm] nbelaevski: generated documentation for components

[10:41pm] balunasj: nbelaevski: ah yes - your thoughts on it?

[10:42pm] nbelaevski: so, we need to provide tags/attributes/events/facets documentation

[10:42pm] nbelaevski: let me find example for Mojarra....

[10:44pm] nbelaevski: sorry, but cannot find it

[10:44pm] nbelaevski: so we can use TLDDoc template or beautify it

[10:45pm] nbelaevski: what's bad about std. template is that it isn't aware of JSF-specific things like facets

[10:45pm] nbelaevski: so I suggest to refine its structure to get this information in

[10:46pm] balunasj: How much effort is that?

[10:47pm] nbelaevski: CDK generates XML with all the necessary information, we just need to update XSLT templates that TLDDoc uses - or create completely new templates

[10:47pm] balunasj: nbelaevski: could we "recycle" RI's ?

[10:47pm] nbelaevski: effort consists of developing structure in the form of HTML template

[10:48pm] nbelaevski: balunasj: yes, but non-JSP information will be missing

[10:49pm] nbelaevski: balunasj: facet names, supported events

[10:49pm] balunasj: ic

[10:49pm] nbelaevski: and if we get HTML template, it's easy to make XSLT template

[10:49pm] nbelaevski: the next part of the work is content development

[10:50pm] balunasj: serogers: Do you have any experience with html?  Is this something you might be able to help with?

[10:50pm] balunasj: nbelaevski: unless you had someone else in mind?

[10:50pm] nbelaevski: Ilya & Sean can work with attributes/components descriptions

[10:50pm] serogers: Not a lot

[10:51pm] nbelaevski: balunasj: serogers: maybe there's something ready at jboss.org content group?

[10:51pm] serogers: I don't believe so, but not sure

[10:51pm] nbelaevski: AFAIK, they have provided styles for HTML documentation - maybe there's smth. for tag docs there too?

[10:53pm] nbelaevski: looks very good

[10:54pm] balunasj: nbelaevski: yeah that page has always look good.

[10:54pm] balunasj: so serogers can you see if the doc team has anything like these templates?

[10:55pm] serogers: I will see, but I don't think anyone is doing anything similar

[10:55pm] nbelaevski: looking at this doc. I wish we find the plugin they used...

[10:55pm] balunasj: If they don't nbelaevski how much work is updating the template?

[10:55pm] nbelaevski: 2-3 days I think

[10:56pm] balunasj: nbelaevski: Who do you think could work on it from the dev team?  We have some time next week - but I know me, you, alex, etc... are busy

[10:57pm] nbelaevski: Ilya & me?

[10:57pm] balunasj: nbelaevski: if you think there will be time

[10:59pm] nbelaevski: and see

[11:00pm] balunasj: nbelaevski: ok

[11:01pm] nbelaevski: the next part is content development

[11:01pm] serogers: Any more to discuss?

[11:02pm] balunasj: serogers: You may need to work with ilya_shaikovsky on content for the tld's

[11:02pm] nbelaevski: ilya_shaikovsky: serogers: how do you think we distribute this work?

[11:02pm] serogers: OK

[11:02pm] balunasj: ilya_shaikovsky: Perhaps you rough draft, then sean can review & update, or just split it up, etc...

[11:03pm] nbelaevski: balunasj: for me this sounds good

[11:03pm] serogers: rough draft then review sounds good

[11:05pm] balunasj: serogers: ilya_shaikovsky : please discuss as needed offline, and let us know if you need review, or assistance with the content.

[11:05pm] balunasj: nbelaevski: If you and ilya_shaikovsky feel you'll have time for template stuff great, but I don't think that is a huge priority for M2.

[11:05pm] serogers: OK

[11:05pm] nbelaevski: balunasj: ok

[11:05pm] balunasj: Alright guys - that is about all the time I've got for now - I better get going.

[11:06pm] serogers: OK, thanks everyone

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[11:08pm] nbelaevski: thanks