13 Replies Latest reply on Nov 2, 2011 2:02 PM by Robert (Bob) Brodt

    BPMN Editor

    Amin MC Newbie

      Hi

       

      Does the new BPMN editor handle custom work item definitions?  If so does it follow the same principle of setting up custom handlers as before?

       

       

      Cheers

        • 1. Re: BPMN Editor
          Amin MC Newbie

          I've actually found out you can do it like before.  Just checked the samples.  I can't seem to see where you specifiy Parameter mapping/ Result Mapping and process variable definitions.  Are these no longer required?  Documentation doesn't mention this...

          • 2. Re: BPMN Editor
            Tihomir Surdilovic Master

            Are you talking about the web-based bpmn2 editor or the eclipse one?

            • 3. Re: BPMN Editor
              Amin MC Newbie

              Hi

               

              I am referring to the eclipse editor.  I was using the drools eclipse editor to create bpmn definitions and I had to do things such as define process instance variables and for my custom work item nodes i needed to map result mappings and parameter mappings.  I could see these in the new eclipse BPMN editor with the release of 5.1. 

               

              Cheers

              • 4. Re: BPMN Editor
                Kris Verlaenen Master

                The new BPMN2 editor allows you to include these domain-specific nodes.

                 

                We're still working on making sure your domain-specific services show up as custom nodes on the palette as well.

                 

                Kris

                • 5. Re: BPMN Editor
                  Amin MC Newbie

                  Hi Kris

                   

                  Thanks for your reply.   Sorry about this but I'm slightly confused.  So the new editor allows you to add domain specific nodes however you cannot see them on the custom task on the palette?  I couldn't see my custom nodes on the palette even when i tried to use the Email/Log node and clicked on custom editor I got a message saying "Here should be a custom editor for email!". 

                   

                  I tried viewing my existing bpmn graphs that I created using the drools eclipse editor unfortunately it there were several issues (nodes not linked).   I guess I will learn this as i use more of the bpmn editor but it's bit of struggle with regards to understanding where you define process instance variables as you do using the drools eclipse editor.

                   

                   

                  Thanks

                  • 6. Re: BPMN Editor
                    Sergio # Newbie

                    Kris,

                     

                    could you please determine when we can expect the new BPMN2 eclipse editor to be included in the jBPM distribution?

                    Currently, this editor is available as an external plugin and its source code at github doesn't show any changes since the begining of March.

                     

                    Best regards,

                     

                    Sergio

                    • 7. Re: BPMN Editor
                      Kris Verlaenen Master

                      Sergio,

                       

                      I took a while to get resources reshuffled internally, but we now have Bob Brodt who will be working almost fulltime on the jBPM Eclipse plugin over the next few months.  There's some bug that need to be resolved and quite a few features we would like to add during that time frame, but you should see some steady movement forward soon.

                       

                      We're planning to offer the new BPMN2 plugin as a replacement for the existing tooling for the next release.  Note that, depending on the features you're looking for, you might be able to start using it earlier, as we'll try to improve the most important areas first.  You can already start using the

                      BPMN2 editor and start playing with it if you want.  And if you're interested in providing feedback or maybe even helping out a little, definitely try to get in contact with someone from the development team and we'll help you out.

                       

                      Kris

                      • 8. Re: BPMN Editor
                        Amin MC Newbie

                        Hi Kris

                         

                        Can you tell us what some of the issues/improvements are?  I have built custom nodes for the work that I am doing and cannot seem to get them working on the new editor (when clicking on the Custom Editor button I get a message stating I need a Custom Editor).  Is there any migration steps that need to be done to move graphs done in drools eclipse editor? I presume there shouldn't be but I tried opening the examples distribution in the new editor and there were no links between nodes.

                         

                        Cheers

                        • 9. Re: BPMN Editor
                          Sergio # Newbie

                          Kris,

                           

                          thank you very much for your answer. It explained the situation about the BPMN2 editor and I'm pretty sure a lot of people were waiting for it.

                          Best regards,

                           

                          Sergio

                          • 10. Re: BPMN Editor
                            Kris Verlaenen Master

                            The fact that connections are not shown is a known limitation:

                            https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBPM-3241

                             

                            It's caused by the fact that the Eclipse BPMN2 metamodel is expecting the connections to be defined on two separate locations.  We're looking at how we can improve the model to support the way we specify the connections as well.

                             

                            Kris

                            • 11. Re: BPMN Editor
                              Robert (Bob) Brodt Newbie

                              Hi Amin,

                               

                              The new BPMN2 editor at eclipse.org is still in development and not quite ready for the general public

                              The editor that you were probably looking at is a very early prototype and has changed quite a bit. Please visit the project website at http://www.eclipse.org/bpmn2-modeler for the latest updates.

                               

                              Cheers!

                              Bob Brodt

                              • 12. Re: BPMN Editor
                                Mauricio Salatino Master

                                Hi Rob, are you in charge of the development of that plugin?

                                Can we get some direction on how to test it and contribute to that project? We can help as community to get that plugin ready.

                                Cheers

                                • 13. Re: BPMN Editor
                                  Robert (Bob) Brodt Newbie

                                  Hi Marucio! Yes, I'm project lead for that eclipse project. and yes, I can use all the help I can get.

                                  To get started, visit the project website and grab the code from git here:

                                   

                                  https://git.eclipse.org/c/bpmn2-modeler/org.eclipse.bpmn2-modeler.git/

                                   

                                  Because of breaking changes in the graphiti API (from graphiti 0.7.3 for helios to 0.8.1 for indigo) and EMF (2,6,1 vs 2.7.0), this currently only builds on eclipse 3.7 (indigo). I'm currently looking into how we can fix this.

                                   

                                  Let me know if you need more info to get started.

                                   

                                  Cheers!

                                  Bob