5 Replies Latest reply on Sep 16, 2008 7:23 AM by Ales Justin

    Is Embedded JBoss dead?

    Marco Huber Newbie

      Hi all,

      I find the concept of a "small" JBoss AS for simple testing a great idea, but I wonder that the latest version of the Embedded JBoss is beta3 and JBoss-AS- .0.0 reached CR1.
      So I asked myself is the Embedded JBoss still alive because I see not realy a progress in this project?
      Furthermore I wonder of the missing of any progress because JBoss Seam is using the embedded JBoss for it's internal test framework. Or is there further development of the embedded JBoss in Seam project?

      If someone have any information about this project it would be glad if he/she could share this with the (small) Embedded JBoss user communtity.

      Thanks
      Marco

        • 1. Re: Is Embedded JBoss dead?
          Kamil Demecki Novice

          New JBoss 5 will be POJO server so it will embeddable in many environments. Maybe not all features will be POJO on 5.0.GA (market pressure on G.A release) but work is on progress.

          Earlier I also had seek jboss embedded but project is halted (community support is halted) because JBoss need developers to work on 5.0.GA.

          But many functionalities works in JBoss Embedded beta 3 (even earlier version described in Bauer Hibernate Book). Hibernate works standalone from long time ago. Injecting into beans works also on JBoss Embedded beta 3, checking permissions also.

          Additional you may look at JBoss testing directories (src/tests/java) in JBossAS source code (preferably trunk ;)) JBossAS has many good tests which many doesn't require server and run standalone.


          • 2. Re: Is Embedded JBoss dead?
            Marco Huber Newbie

            Thank you skajotde for your response.

            That sound logical. The AS 5 started a long time ago and is still not finished :-( So it is clear that the JBoss guys take as much as manpower to publish the GA of it.

            I thought, that the embedded is only a sub-set of the full AS, so I was wondering that JBoss releases new version, but not for the embedded (maybe I think to much in the "Maven Way" :-))

            I will have a look in the JBoss AS 5 tests and maybe I find a easy way to test my session beans without the full AS.

            Regards
            Marco

            • 3. Re: Is Embedded JBoss dead?
              Kamil Demecki Novice

              Take a look at

              http://java.dzone.com/videos/tech-chat-sacha-labourey-jboss
              http://sacha.labourey.com/2008/06/28/jboss-as-50-status/

              "sacha" wrote:

              First, a bit of history. In 2001, JBoss was the first application server to feature a complete micro-kernel architecture (based on JMX)


              It was nice ;>

              "sacha" wrote:

              decided we needed to be ready for the "next generation" AS architecture. This led to the start of "JBoss AS 5.0" three years ago.


              JBoss had EJB3 three years ago. New POJO architecture requires much work but will be impressive step if ends successful.


              • 4. Re: Is Embedded JBoss dead?
                Joshua Davis Expert

                 

                "hubaer" wrote:
                Hi all,

                I find the concept of a "small" JBoss AS for simple testing a great idea, but I wonder that the latest version of the Embedded JBoss is beta3 and JBoss-AS- .0.0 reached CR1.
                So I asked myself is the Embedded JBoss still alive because I see not realy a progress in this project?
                Furthermore I wonder of the missing of any progress because JBoss Seam is using the embedded JBoss for it's internal test framework. Or is there further development of the embedded JBoss in Seam project?

                If someone have any information about this project it would be glad if he/she could share this with the (small) Embedded JBoss user communtity.

                Thanks
                Marco


                The Seam project uses it, and it does work as advertised. The only issue that I've experienced lately is that Bootstrap.shutdown() throws exceptions while tearing down the JBoss Messaging MBeans.

                If you're having problems with it, why don't you post some specific issues?

                Also, not to be an Open Source nitwit (but I am)... you can get the source code and contribute by doing some debugging. That's what I do.

                - Josh

                • 5. Re: Is Embedded JBoss dead?
                  Ales Justin Master

                   

                  "pgmjsd" wrote:

                  Also, not to be an Open Source nitwit (but I am)... you can get the source code and contribute by doing some debugging. That's what I do.

                  Yup, that's the right way to go. :-)

                  We are more than aware that we need to do something about Embedded,
                  it's just that we don't know / cannot decide exactly what to do.
                  For this purpose we created Embedded dev forum:
                  - http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewforum&f=266

                  As Josh indicates, the source is available.
                  And we would be very glad if someone could check the current state of Embedded from AS5_trunk.

                  With AS5_trunk now being fully mavenized (perhaps only a few glitches remaining),
                  it should be easier to make Embedded self sustaining.
                  If that means extracted from AS5_trunk, so be it.

                  The only issue I see - but this is for dev forum - is the role of ProfileService in this whole maintenance scenario.
                  e.g. could we drop Embedded and use PS to create similar env for us?