8 Replies Latest reply on Jan 26, 2016 1:37 PM by sanmo

    Wildfly 9.0.2 Cipher Suite Issue

    sanmo Newbie

      I have upgraded from Wilffly 8.1 to Wildfly 9.0.2 Final. Using Java 7 64bit on AIX. I have the following setup in standalone.xml

       

      <https-listener name="https" socket-binding="https" security-realm="UndertowRealm" enabled-cipher-suites="SSL_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA,SSL_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256,SSL_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256,SSL_DH
      E_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA,SSL_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256,SSL_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA" enabled-protocols="TLSv1,TLSv1.1,TLSv1.2"/>
      
      

       

      This setup was working fine on Wildfly 8.1.0 and JAva 7. I could even disable TLSv1 and TLSv1.1 and it would still work fine. When I probe the ip:port with sslyze.exe it would show me that the correct ciphers were accepted.

       

      When I do the same setup on Wildfly 9.0.2, I get a ERR_SSL_PROTOCOL error when I browse to the page. I have also noticed that when I have the following ciphers enabled, I can go to the page, none of the WAR files deployed works.

      TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA

      TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA

      TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA

       

      Update: I do not see this issue if I run it on Windows with Java 7.

       

      Can you please help me out?

       

      thanks

        • 1. Re: Wildfly 9.0.2 Cipher Suite Issue
          Tomaz Cerar Master

          It could be related to your OS setup and JVM.

          if you use JDK8 as runtime do you see any difference?

          • 2. Re: Wildfly 9.0.2 Cipher Suite Issue
            Martin Choma Expert

            Also use -Djavax.net.debug=all system property. It is very usefull, it will show you SSL handshake details, which cipher suite was choosed and probably SSL error details.

             

            Really, java version is important in these cases - please provide exact java versions you use. On AIX do you use IBM java? On Windows do you use oracle/openjdk java?

             

            Also can be caused by https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBEAP-2070. Do you use self signed certificate?

             

            I don't understand last paragraph about TLS_* cipher suite, can you rewrite from " I have also noticed that ...", please?

            • 3. Re: Wildfly 9.0.2 Cipher Suite Issue
              sanmo Newbie

              Yes I use IBM JDK 7 on AIX. On my PC is use Oracle JDK 7 on windows 7. I installed JDK 8 and I am still getting the same SSL Error. I am using a Private CA to sign the certificate.

              there was a glitch when I was typing it, thought it took everything. However, using the -D property mentioned above, I see the following.

               

               

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-1) IBMJSSE2 will enable CBC protection

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-1) Using SSLEngineImpl.

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-1) IBMJSSE2 will NOT allow renegotiation per com.ibm.jsse2.renegotiate set to disabled

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-1) IBMJSSE2 will not require renegotiation indicator during initial handshake per com.ibm.jsse2.renegotiation.indicator set to OPTIONAL or default taken

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-1) IBMJSSE2 will not perform identity checking against the peer cert check during renegotiation per com.ibm.jsse2.renegotiation.peer.cert.check set to OFF or default

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-1) IBMJSSE2 will allow client initiated renegotiation per jdk.tls.rejectClientInitiatedRenegotiation set to FALSE or default

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-1)

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-1) Is initial handshake: true

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-1) No available cipher suite for TLSv1.2

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-1) default I/O-1, fatal error: 80: problem unwrapping net record

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-1) javax.net.ssl.SSLHandshakeException: No appropriate protocol, may be no appropriate cipher suite specified or protocols are deactivated

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-1) default I/O-1, SEND TLSv1.2 ALERT:  fatal, description = internal_error

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-1) default I/O-1, WRITE: TLSv1.2 Alert, length = 2

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-1) [Raw write]: length = 7

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-1) 0000: 15 03 03 00 02 02 50                               ......P

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-1)

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-1) default I/O-1, called closeOutbound()

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-1) default I/O-1, closeOutboundInternal()

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-1) Using SSLEngineImpl.

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-1)

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-1) Is initial handshake: true

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-1) No available cipher suite for TLSv1.2

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-1) default I/O-1, fatal error: 80: problem unwrapping net record

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-1) javax.net.ssl.SSLHandshakeException: No appropriate protocol, may be no appropriate cipher suite specified or protocols are deactivated

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-1) default I/O-1, SEND TLSv1.2 ALERT:  fatal, description = internal_error

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-1) default I/O-1, WRITE: TLSv1.2 Alert, length = 2

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-1) [Raw write]: length = 7

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-1) 0000: 15 03 03 00 02 02 50                               ......P

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-1)

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-1) default I/O-1, called closeOutbound()

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-1) default I/O-1, closeOutboundInternal()

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-2) Using SSLEngineImpl.

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-2)

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-2) Is initial handshake: true

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-2) No available cipher suite for TLSv1.2

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-2) default I/O-2, fatal error: 80: problem unwrapping net record

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-2) javax.net.ssl.SSLHandshakeException: No appropriate protocol, may be no appropriate cipher suite specified or protocols are deactivated

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-2) default I/O-2, SEND TLSv1.2 ALERT:  fatal, description = internal_error

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-2) default I/O-2, WRITE: TLSv1.2 Alert, length = 2

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-2) [Raw write]: length = 7

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-2) 0000: 15 03 03 00 02 02 50                               ......P

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-2)

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-2) default I/O-2, called closeOutbound()

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-2) default I/O-2, closeOutboundInternal()

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-2) Using SSLEngineImpl.

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-2)

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-2) Is initial handshake: true

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-2) No available cipher suite for TLSv1.2

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-2) default I/O-2, fatal error: 80: problem unwrapping net record

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-2) javax.net.ssl.SSLHandshakeException: No appropriate protocol, may be no appropriate cipher suite specified or protocols are deactivated

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-2) default I/O-2, SEND TLSv1.2 ALERT:  fatal, description = internal_error

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-2) default I/O-2, WRITE: TLSv1.2 Alert, length = 2

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-2) [Raw write]: length = 7

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-2) 0000: 15 03 03 00 02 02 50                               ......P

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-2)

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-2) default I/O-2, called closeOutbound()

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-2) default I/O-2, closeOutboundInternal()

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-3) Using SSLEngineImpl.

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-3)

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-3) Is initial handshake: true

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-3) No available cipher suite for TLSv1.2

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-3) default I/O-3, fatal error: 80: problem unwrapping net record

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-3) javax.net.ssl.SSLHandshakeException: No appropriate protocol, may be no appropriate cipher suite specified or protocols are deactivated

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-3) default I/O-3, SEND TLSv1.2 ALERT:  fatal, description = internal_error

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-3) default I/O-3, WRITE: TLSv1.2 Alert, length = 2

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-3) [Raw write]: length = 7

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-3) 0000: 15 03 03 00 02 02 50                               ......P

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-3)

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-3) default I/O-3, called closeOutbound()

              INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-3) default I/O-3, closeOutboundInternal()

               

               

              I am enabling the following ciphers..

              enabled-cipher-suites="TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA,TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA,TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA,TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256,TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256,TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256"

               

              thanks

              • 4. Re: Wildfly 9.0.2 Cipher Suite Issue
                Martin Choma Expert

                Which cipher suite is used on oracle for handshake? Try to set wildfly only with that one cipher suite for testing with IBM java.

                 

                Also try running openssl s_client or TestSSLServer to "scan" the connection. It will try different cipher suites and provide report.

                • 5. Re: Wildfly 9.0.2 Cipher Suite Issue
                  Tomaz Cerar Master

                  you get

                  INFO  [stdout] (default I/O-2) No available cipher suite for TLSv1.2

                  which would mean JDK/JVM doesn't have support to TLSv1.2

                   

                  i would recommend reading https://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSYKE2_7.0.0/com.ibm.java.security.component.71.doc/security-component/jsse2Docs/ciphersuites.html

                   

                  which has lots of info about combination of chipers suites and protocols  and what works together and what not.

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                  • 6. Re: Wildfly 9.0.2 Cipher Suite Issue
                    sanmo Newbie

                    Tomaz

                    This link helped out. I had to use a different cipher suite enumeration than what I used before. I had to change TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA to a SSL_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA. Even though their website specified that TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA will be recognized, it was not.

                    This worked with Java 7 as well.

                     

                    Thanks

                    • 7. Re: Wildfly 9.0.2 Cipher Suite Issue
                      Martin Choma Expert

                      Happy to hear you get over this issue. Just to make it clear. In your original post you was using SSL_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA, why it works now?

                      • 8. Re: Wildfly 9.0.2 Cipher Suite Issue
                        sanmo Newbie

                        Martin

                        I was using TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA, according to IBM they supported it (mentioned in that link as well). I have used this with Wildfly 8.1. I had changed the enumerations around several times when trying to make it work. When I used SSL_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA I was teaming it up with the AES 256 encryption type which on AIX requires a special package for JCE, which is not installed by default. So when there was an unsupported cipher in the list along with a supported one, it used to fail.

                         

                        I probed it with sslyze app while I had the -Djavax.net.debug=all turned on. The server was spitting out supported cipher list at that point.

                        Cipher Suites: [SSL_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA, SSL_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA, SSL_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA, SSL_ECDH_ECDSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA, SSL_ECDH_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA, SSL_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA, SSL_DHE_DSS_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA, SSL_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_RC4_128_SHA, SSL_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_RC4_128_SHA, SSL_RSA_WITH_RC4_128_SHA, SSL_ECDH_ECDSA_WITH_RC4_128_SHA, SSL_ECDH_RSA_WITH_RC4_128_SHA, SSL_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA, SSL_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA, SSL_RSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA, SSL_ECDH_ECDSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA, SSL_ECDH_RSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA, SSL_DHE_RSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA, SSL_DHE_DSS_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA, SSL_RSA_WITH_RC4_128_MD5, TLS_EMPTY_RENEGOTIATION_INFO_SCSV]

                         

                        Did not find any AES 256 in the list which made me look further down in the link provided by Tomaz. I wonder if Wildfly 8.1 was using the JVM for protocols and ciphers. Never ran into this issue before with Java 7 and Wildfly 8.1. Running sslyze would show that AES256 ciphers was supported with TLSv1.2.