1 Reply Latest reply on Mar 11, 2016 12:33 PM by Justin Bertram

    Help/Advice need with message grouping

    fatbob73 Newbie

      We are planning on using to WildFly servers with HornetQ in a cluster.

       

      We are planning on using HornetQ (running on multiple WildFly 9.02 servers) in a cluster. We plan on depositing files (byte arrays) onto the queue. The consumer will get a file from the queue, convert it to PDF and then FTP it to another server. Should something go wrong during this process of converting to PDF or FTPing we do not want to process any other files with the same ID. It is very important that these files are processed in order.

       

      The queue would look something like this:

       

      File 1, ID 1234

      File 2, ID 1234

      File 3, ID 9348

      File 4, ID 1234

      File 5, ID 4887

       

      If something goes wrong while processing file 1, we don't want file 2 or 4 to be processed until file 1 can be successfully processed.

       

      Where we see it getting even more complicated is when one WildFly server (server a) picks up file 1 and server b picks up file 2, while server a is having trouble processing file 1. At this point it's too late for server b to know that server a had trouble processing file 1.

       

      Our belief is that message grouping can be the answer to our situation. Is that assumption correct? Is message grouping the answer to our needs?

       

      Here is an example of the code we have now that writes messages to the queue (in this code we are not write bytes[], simply text):

       

      context = new InitialContext();
      
      String connectionFactoryString = System.getProperty("connection.factory", CONNECTION_FACTORY);
      connectionFactory = (ConnectionFactory) context.lookup(connectionFactoryString);
      
      String destinationString = System.getProperty("destination", DESTINATION);
      destination = (Destination) context.lookup(destinationString);
      
      // Create the JMS connection, session, producer, and consumer
      connection = connectionFactory.createConnection(System.getProperty("username", DEFAULT_USERNAME), System.getProperty("password", DEFAULT_PASSWORD));
      session = connection.createSession(false, Session.AUTO_ACKNOWLEDGE);
      producer = session.createProducer(destination);
      connection.start();
      
      // Send the specified number of messages
      for (int i = 0; i < NUM_OF_MESSAGES; i++) {
          message = session.createTextMessage(i + " Group-0 " + msg.toString());
      
          message.setStringProperty("JMSXGroupID", "Group-0");
      
          producer.send(message);
          log.info("\t\tSending messages with content ["+i+"]: " + msg.toString());
          Thread.sleep(1000);
      }
      
      for (int i = 0; i < NUM_OF_MESSAGES; i++) {
          message = session.createTextMessage(i + " Group-1 " + msg.toString());
      
          message.setStringProperty("JMSXGroupID", "Group-1");
      
          producer.send(message);
          log.info("\t\tSending messages with content ["+i+"]: " + msg.toString());
          Thread.sleep(1000);
      }
      

       

      I'm not even sure if the messages went into groups. How can I verify that?

       

      Here is the example code that we have that is reading from the queue, but I don't know how to handle reading from a specific group:

       

      context = new InitialContext();
      
      String connectionFactoryString = System.getProperty("connection.factory", CONNECTION_FACTORY);
      connectionFactory = (ConnectionFactory) context.lookup(connectionFactoryString);
      
      String destinationString = System.getProperty("destination", DESTINATION);
      destination = (Destination) context.lookup(destinationString);
      
      // Create the JMS connection, session, producer, and consumer
      connection = connectionFactory.createConnection(System.getProperty("username", DEFAULT_USERNAME), System.getProperty("password", DEFAULT_PASSWORD));
      session = connection.createSession(false, Session.AUTO_ACKNOWLEDGE);
      consumer = session.createConsumer(destination);
      connection.start();
      
      do {
          try {
              message = (TextMessage)consumer.receiveNoWait();
          } catch (javax.jms.IllegalStateException ise) {
              ise.printStackTrace();
              Thread.sleep(3000);
              message = (TextMessage)consumer.receiveNoWait();
          }
      
          if (message != null) {
              log.info("Receiving messages with content: " + message.getText());
              Thread.sleep(1000);
          }
      } while (message != null);
      

       

      If not message grouping, what other way can we go about handling our situation?

       

      Thanks!

        • 1. Re: Help/Advice need with message grouping
          Justin Bertram Master

          Our belief is that message grouping can be the answer to our situation. Is that assumption correct? Is message grouping the answer to our needs?

          I think using message groups will get you close to what you want, but there are some details that are missing from your use-case description that may problematic. 

           

          For example, how are you going to handle failures?  Are you going to rollback so the message is redelivered?  If so, how many times should the message be redelivered?  If there is a problem with the message itself and redelivery is infinite then the consumer will keep choking on the same message again and again and no other messages in the group will ever be consumed.  Perhaps that what you want, but perhaps not.  If you want to eventually send broken messages like this to a DLQ or just delete them then what happens to the rest of the group?  Is it discarded also or is it consumed?  All grouping does is ensure a single consumer receives the messages so that they are processed serially.  I can't really help with any of these other scenarios (and may make certain failure scenarios worse).

           

          I'm not even sure if the messages went into groups. How can I verify that?

          The only real way to verify is functionally.  In other words, test and see that non-grouped messages are consumed by multiple clients and grouped messages are only ever consumed by a single client.

           

          ...I don't know how to handle reading from a specific group:

          The client doesn't influence what group it consumes.  The server assigns a group to a client automatically.

           

           

          Lastly, why do you want to use a cluster?  Typically a cluster is used to increase performance.  However, message grouping enforces serial message processing which is a performance killer.  So there is a potential conflict between your configuration and your use-case.