4 Replies Latest reply on Aug 29, 2003 2:21 PM by Adrian Brock

    EJB 2.0 local home interface vs remote in JBoss

    abostick Newbie

      The EJB 2.0 spec offers local interfaces to avoid the RMI overhead when inside the JVM. But my understanding is you have to implement the local interface and specifically call, i.e. know in advance, your client is on the same jvm.

      From reading Marc's blue paper and the for pay documentation on CMP, pg 554, it says JBoss's dynamic proxies basically already do this for you with the remote interfaces on the fly and Marc in his Blue paper says the local stuff is really a "spec fix".

      My question is, in order to get the performance benefits of local, pass by reference, invocations, do you need to implement the EJB 2.0 local interfaces or does JBoss do all that magic over the remote interface. And if not, what use would the local intefaces be except to hide some beans from a client?

      On a side note, I think I read that BEA's weblogic does this same kind of optimization of pass-by-reference(no RMI) when inside the same JVM, but does anyone know if IBM's websphere 5.0 does this?

      Thanks for the information!

      Aaron

        • 1. Re: EJB 2.0 local home interface vs remote in JBoss
          Jon Barnett Master

          JBoss does employ some dynamic detection and will implement remote interface calls in a local interface manner when within the same JVM as long as you do not change the default jndi.properties for java.naming.provider.url. See the conf/jndi.properties for your JBoss run-time instance.

          However, there is still a performance penalty for this compared to making an explicit local interface call. You also still have to perform the RMI narrow operation on the remote object. The explicit local interface call does not need to include this.

          You would need to assess whether these penalties are negligible in your chain of interactions. However, implementing only remote interface calls allows you to physically split apart your application architecture if it is required.

          I do not know if WebSphere performs the same call optimizations but I suspect it would. At least I'd hope so for $30K. In any case, the WebSphere choice usually reflects business oriented decisions rather than purely performance.

          • 2. Re: EJB 2.0 local home interface vs remote in JBoss
            Weston Price Newbie

            WebSphere does indeed perform this optimization (it's included in the 30K price tag) as most of the other commerical appservers.However, keep in mind one thing:

            Remote interfaces extend java.rmi.Remote which is intended for remote objects. As a result, any subtype is required to throw RemoteExceptions whether this is applicable or not (this would be in the abscence of Local intefaces). After sometime, I believe it would be difficult to distinguish between Local components and Remote components since they would be so similar.
            I like Local component interfaces largely because I can demarcate functionality in my components based upon location. If I am developing an EJB that I know will only be deployed in an environment that has to be used locally then I can specify that this EJB only has local interfaces and therefore can only be invoked intraVM. This comes in handly with coarse grained Entity beans where a piece of the Entity component in question does not, and cannot exists without a parent (or relationship) and therefore should never be directly available to remote clients.
            Of course, you always have the option to offer both types, and to be quite frank, this is required a great deal of the time in testing. When you go to production you can always remove the Remote interfaces from those beans that you you do not want to be accessible outside of the server VM.

            Regards,

            Weston

            • 3. Re: EJB 2.0 local home interface vs remote in JBoss
              abostick Newbie

              Thanks for the explanation. One thing I'm still not clear on is what is the magnitude of the peformance hit when using the "optimized" remote calls versus a native local interface call? IOW, Marc's blue paper says serialization is the big performance killer causing your calls to be 5 to 10 times slower. When I make a remote call and JBoss figures out that the bean I am accessing is in the same JVM as the client, does it still perform the RMI calls and thus the serialization or is the performance hit you are talking about just the overhead of detecting the call and downcasting the return objects, etc...

              Would you expect the overhead to be 10%, 50%, 100%? or more along the lines of 5x or 10x?

              Thanks again.

              Aaron

              • 4. Re: EJB 2.0 local home interface vs remote in JBoss
                Adrian Brock Master

                X10

                JBoss avoids the marshall/unmarshall step (a posh kind of
                serialization) required for Remote invocations on the same server.

                Regards,
                Adrian