14 Replies Latest reply on Sep 21, 2006 7:59 AM by ch

    Http Session Timeout does not work properly

    Guofeng Zhang Novice

      the following is the code to set the timeout of the HTTP session:

      public class HttpSessionLifeCycleListener implements HttpSessionListener {
      
       public void sessionCreated(HttpSessionEvent parm) {
       ........
       HttpSession session = parm.getSession() ;
       session.setMaxInactiveInterval( timeout ) ;
       }
       ........
      }
      


      Some of the customers ( few of them ) report that the session is timed out frequently (less than the time set, the value of timeout is 1800s).

      We use JBoss 3.2.5, JDK 1.5.

      We want to know if anyone met such case either, or what cause the problem?

      thanks for your help very much.


        • 1. Re: Http Session Timeout does not work properly
          Ales Justin Master

          I'm having the same problem with JBossAS 4.0.3RC1 (jdk5).

          I have a timeout set to 30min

           <session-config>
           <session-timeout>30</session-timeout>
           </session-config>
          


          But some of the sessions are still alive after more (way more) than 30min:

          A simpe stats page layout:

          # 212.118.92.45 [1 reqs][last click 8389 min ago]
          # 193.77.210.2 [13 reqs][last click 2798 min ago]
          # 212.93.231.130 [7 reqs][last click 2877 min ago]
          # 195.245.250.2 [6 reqs][last click 2560 min ago]
          # 193.77.162.11 [2 reqs][last click 4215 min ago]
          # 212.93.231.130 [4 reqs][last click 1079 min ago]
          # 193.77.110.133 [1 reqs][last click 130 min ago]
          # 193.77.148.250 [1 reqs][last click 99 min ago]
          # 195.47.226.1 [1 reqs][last click 971 min ago]
          # 213.157.224.69 [2 reqs][last click 8423 min ago]
          


          I'm using HttpSessionListener to track the clicks inside my app - and its destroy method only gets called when I shut down app server.

          What can be the problem?


          • 2. Re: Http Session Timeout does not work properly
            Scott Stark Master

            4.0.1 had a problem with distributed setting breaking the session timeout, but it was fixed in 4.0.2. Unless your using the stable 4.0.3SP1 release who knows if it or another issue crept in.

            • 3. Re: Http Session Timeout does not work properly
              Ales Justin Master

              Grrr, using JBossAS 4.0.4.CR2 also doesn't help.
              I still get a huge number of never expired sessions:

              [7 reqs][last click 4159 min ago]
              [1 reqs][last click 2864 min ago]
              [7 reqs][last click 3128 min ago]
              ...
              



              sessionMaxAliveTime ... 12821 ... Longest time an expired session had been alive


              Hmmm ... nine days being active ... super freek ... :-)


              • 4. Re: Http Session Timeout does not work properly
                Ales Justin Master

                When I test this on my local machine - WinXP - the sessions are destroyed as expected.
                But when running in production on Linux - some of them are never destroyed - as seen from my previous post.

                I looked at the catalina's StandardSession (or StandardManager) code and there is no such stuff that would indicate any problems.

                :-(

                Rgds, Ales

                • 5. Re: Http Session Timeout does not work properly
                  Erik Turesson Novice

                  Hello!

                  I am having exactly the same problem.
                  My sessions are timing out as expected when testing on WinXP but not in production on Suse Linux 9.

                  /Erik

                  • 6. Re: Http Session Timeout does not work properly
                    Ales Justin Master

                    Auch, this just doesn't go away ... JBossAS 4.0.4GA
                    I have like 800 session that are still alive .. and the stuff is just getting bigger:

                    User Streams | Bot Streams | Both
                    
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                    • 7. Re: Http Session Timeout does not work properly
                      Scott Stark Master

                      What does the tomcat stats servlet say about the app (http://lamia:8080/status?full=true)? When I run set the jmx-console session timeout to 1 min and run a wget loop to create a bunch of sessions:

                      localhost/jmx-console

                      Start time: Thu May 25 08:23:59 PDT 2006 Startup time: 111 ms TLD scan time: 32 ms
                      Active sessions: 147 Session count: 147 Max active sessions: 147 Rejected session creations: 0 Expired sessions: 0 Longest session alive time: 0 s Average session alive time: 0 s Processing time: 0 ms
                      JSPs loaded: 2 JSPs reloaded: 4

                      then check again after a few mins all sessions have expired:

                      localhost/jmx-console

                      Start time: Thu May 25 08:23:59 PDT 2006 Startup time: 111 ms TLD scan time: 32 ms
                      Active sessions: 0 Session count: 147 Max active sessions: 147 Rejected session creations: 0 Expired sessions: 294 Longest session alive time: 119 s Average session alive time: 60 s Processing time: 154 ms
                      JSPs loaded: 2 JSPs reloaded: 4

                      • 8. Re: Http Session Timeout does not work properly
                        Scott Stark Master

                        I also threw in a HttpSessionListener and validated that its sessionDestroyed is being called for all expirations. This is with jboss running on a linux box under jdk1.5.0_03 and the wget client running on a separate win32 box.

                        • 9. Re: Http Session Timeout does not work properly
                          Ales Justin Master

                           


                          What does the tomcat stats servlet say about the app (http://lamia:8080/status?full=true)?


                          Where do I find status app? Is it a part of 'all' AS configuration?


                          Some info about AS, OS and Java

                          19:58:09,233 INFO [Server] Release ID: JBoss [Zion] 4.0.4.CR2 (build: CVSTag=JBoss_4_0_4_CR2 date=200603311500)
                          19:58:09,736 INFO [ServerInfo] Java version: 1.5.0_04,Sun Microsystems Inc.
                          19:58:09,737 INFO [ServerInfo] Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM 1.5.0_04-b05,Sun Microsystems Inc.
                          19:58:09,737 INFO [ServerInfo] OS-System: Linux 2.6.8-3-686-smp,i386
                          It's Debian Linux.

                          We changed the machine, configured the same stuff on a new machine, but we still get really long living sessions.

                          ...
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                          ...

                          I looked through the Catalina code - session invalidation - and it's pretty basic stuff - checker thread going through all session instances, simply checking if they are over time limit.

                          Our app is a portal app - running in JBossPortal 2.0. Can this have any weird influence on apps HttpSessions? Talking to Julien Viet at JBW in LV about this - there are some problems with user logoff in portal apps - but concerning sessions, he wasn't aware of any similar problem.

                          What would be the best approach to figure this out?

                          Rgds, Ales

                          • 10. Re: Http Session Timeout does not work properly
                            Sébastien Delaire Newbie

                            I have exactly the same problem, with Jboss 4.0.4 RC2

                            there seems to be a process that go check the session when it wants, not when it should

                            On my dev server the sessions are destroyed in the good delay, but on my production server, some of them seems to be never destoyed :(

                            • 11. Re: Http Session Timeout does not work properly
                              Scott Stark Master

                               

                              "alesj" wrote:

                              What does the tomcat stats servlet say about the app (http://lamia:8080/status?full=true)?


                              Where do I find status app? Is it a part of 'all' AS configuration?

                              It's part of the jbossweb-tomcat55.sar/ROOT.war
                               <display-name>Welcome to JBoss</display-name>
                               <description>
                               Welcome to JBoss
                               </description>
                               <servlet>
                               <servlet-name>Status Servlet</servlet-name>
                               <servlet-class>org.jboss.web.tomcat.tc5.StatusServlet</servlet-class>
                               </servlet>
                               <servlet-mapping>
                               <servlet-name>Status Servlet</servlet-name>
                               <url-pattern>/status</url-pattern>
                               </servlet-mapping>
                              </web-app>
                              



                              "alesj" wrote:

                              I looked through the Catalina code - session invalidation - and it's pretty basic stuff - checker thread going through all session instances, simply checking if they are over time limit.

                              Our app is a portal app - running in JBossPortal 2.0. Can this have any weird influence on apps HttpSessions? Talking to Julien Viet at JBW in LV about this - there are some problems with user logoff in portal apps - but concerning sessions, he wasn't aware of any similar problem.

                              What would be the best approach to figure this out?

                              We need a jira issue with a web/portal app that allows us to reproduce the problem. Its possible that this is a portal interaction problem. About the only other thing to do is to add logging to the session invaliation code and access points that update the timestamp to find out what is keeping sessions alive.


                              • 12. Re: Http Session Timeout does not work properly
                                Brian Stansberry Master

                                Ales,

                                Perhaps you can do an experiment:

                                If you look at StandardSession.isValid(), you'll see a session will not expire if field accessCount > 0. The accessCount field will be > 0 if a call to access() is made without a corresponding call to endAccess().

                                Looking at ApplicationDispatcher (TC's impl of RequestDispatcher), one way I could see this happening is if an exception is thrown during a forward() or include() call. StandardSession.endAccess() is called by Request.recycle(); in ApplicationDispatcher.doForward() and doInclude(), recycle() will not be called if there is an exception.

                                Can you perhaps add a valve or something to trap and record the session id associated with any request that throws an exception? And then correlate that to your sessions that aren't expiring. If they match, the above may be the culprit.

                                • 13. Re: Http Session Timeout does not work properly
                                  Ales Justin Master

                                   

                                  "bstansberry@jboss.com" wrote:

                                  Can you perhaps add a valve or something to trap and record the session id associated with any request that throws an exception? And then correlate that to your sessions that aren't expiring. If they match, the above may be the culprit.


                                  I did write a web filter:
                                   public void doFilter(ServletRequest servletRequest, ServletResponse servletResponse, FilterChain filterChain) throws IOException, ServletException {
                                   HttpServletRequest request = (HttpServletRequest) servletRequest;
                                   HttpServletResponse response = (HttpServletResponse) servletResponse;
                                   try {
                                   filterChain.doFilter(request, response);
                                   } catch (IOException e) {
                                   logThrowable(request, response, e);
                                   throw e;
                                   } catch (ServletException e) {
                                   logThrowable(request, response, e);
                                   throw e;
                                   } catch (RuntimeException e) {
                                   logThrowable(request, response, e);
                                   throw e;
                                   } catch (Error e) {
                                   logThrowable(request, response, e);
                                   throw e;
                                   }
                                   }
                                  


                                  Some of the non-expired sessions stem from 'caught' exception, but not all of them. ;-(

                                  • 14. Re: Http Session Timeout does not work properly
                                    ch Newbie

                                    Hi,

                                    we have (I guess) the same problem on our JBoss (3.2.7).
                                    We tracked down a first memory leak some time ago (in Xalan 2.7) but our server still crashed out of memory.

                                    Today I analyzed a second memory dump and found out, that we had sessions in memory that were older than a week.

                                    The stats-servlet told me, there were 1500 sessions created, 770 expired, 100 active. My logfiles told me, that 600 sessions were destroyed. Thirty sessions lost - in one day.

                                    Searching the web I finally got to this page. http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=37356
                                    I think this matches exactly my problem (we are running a two-cpu-machine with hyperthreading). Think this might also what troubles you.
                                    (Well, take a close look at post 48...)

                                    Hope there will an official patch soon...