Sorry to yell, but we will be moving EJB3 development discussions here and we cannot have user questions polluting this forum. I hope you will not find my bluntness too rude.BillIf you have problems with CMP (persistence) use this forum:http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewforum&f=46If you have questions or problems with EJBs use this forum:http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewforum&f=47Adrian