Wise with bpel and JBossWS

[gllambi]

Hi! First of all, very interesting project!! The only thing I saw before was WSIF from apache but I think the project stopped. It's good to see something similar and attached to the JBoss platform.
I also saw the roadmap and it's very interesting the approach to integrate WS-* to this framework. Above all some questions arise to me:

1- What's going to be relationship between JBossWS and JBoss Wise??
2- Can I use Wise with my BPEL orchestrations made with jbpm-bpel??
3- Is there going to be a relationship with jbpm-bpel??

Thanks!
Guzman

[maeste]

"gllambi" wrote:

1- What's going to be relationship between JBossWS and JBoss Wise??

Wise use JBossWS under the hood. IOW JBossWS-native is our JAX-WS implementation (maybe we would support other implementations in next future). Wise is build upont JBossWS generating client classes on the fly using JBossWS tools and using JBossWS JAX-WS implementation to run them.

2- Can I use Wise with my BPEL orchestrations made with jbpm-bpel??
3- Is there going to be a relationship with jbpm-bpel??

Not directly, but Wise is integrated in JBossESB which provide jbpm integration too.
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Thanks!
Guzman

[gllambi]

"maeste" wrote:

Not directly, but Wise is integrated in JBossESB which provide jbpm integration too.

ok, jbpm for process modeling is fine but I was looking for WS-BPEL orchestrations and integrate them with WS-* capabilities. I was thinking of an integration between wise and jbpm-bpel (JBoss BPEL engine) to add WS-* capabilities to my bpel orchestrations. Are there any plans to do something like this?

Thanks
Guzman

[maeste]

maybe you could be interested in this thread:

http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4192325#4192325

[gllambi]

"maeste" wrote:
maybe you could be interested in this thread:

http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4192325#4192325

Sorry, I didn't understand your answer. What's the relationship between overlord and my question? As far as I read an know (that's very little), overlord for SOA governance and to create "conversations" between a client and a service using CDL, isn't it?

[maeste]

ooops I've pasted the wrong link, sorry:
http://fisheye.jboss.org/browse/JBossESB/trunk/product/samples/quickstarts/webservice_bpel

It's the sample demonstrating JBossESB support of WS-BPEL through ACtiveBPEL.
To answer you r question: no there isn't any plan to support BPEL in Wise (at least at the moment), also because Wise is also part of ESB inttegration platform which supports BPEL.

[gllambi]

"maeste" wrote:
ooops I've pasted the wrong link, sorry:
http://fisheye.jboss.org/browse/JBossESB/trunk/product/samples/quickstarts/webservice_bpel

It's the sample demonstrating JBossESB support of WS-BPEL through ACtiveBPEL.
To answer you r question: no there isn't any plan to support BPEL in Wise (at least at the moment), also because Wise is also part of ESB inttegration platform which supports BPEL.

Yes, I tried the example and made my own bpel orchestrations, but I wanted to add WS-*'s services. For example, call a secured service using WS-Security. I know that with the ESB I can do transformations to the message before it get's to the service, but this is quite manually. I thought maybe wise could help me to make things less home made :)

[maeste]

Yep,
if I well understood your requirements Wise 1.0 will help you integrated to JBossESB 4.5:
https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBESB-2206?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel

[gllambi]

"maeste" wrote:
Yep,
if I well understood your requirements Wise 1.0 will help you integrated to JBossESB 4.5:
https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBESB-2206?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel

Thank your very much for the info and the patience :)

Best regards
Guzman

[jim.ma]

"gllambi" wrote:

Yes, I tried the example and made my own bpel orchestrations, but I wanted to add WS-*'s services. For example, call a secured service using WS-Security. I know that with the ESB I can do transformations to the message before it get's to the service, but this is quite manually. I thought maybe wise could help me to make things less home made :)

I've added the ws-security support for Wise . This will be included in Wise 1.0 release. There is a test to demonstrate this new feature :
http://anonsvn.jboss.org/repos/wise/core/trunk/test-src/org/jboss/wise/test/integration/wsse/WSSEIntegrationTest.java .
Let me know your comments and thoughts about it.

[maeste]

Well done Jim!

Any review opinion of this and all other implementation from the community are more than welcome in this phase of the project.

Thanks to all.