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1. Re: The JBoss JCA container project
jesper.pedersen Jul 2, 2008 9:59 AM (in response to jesper.pedersen)I've looked the jboss-jca project and really like the ideas that have been implemented.
So I think that we should use the ideas presented in our implementation - e.g. MC + AOP.
This also fit well with the ideas that Adrian have logged in JIRA.
So for the next steps I would like to do:
* Move the current code-base to a branch, so we keep it around and can pull in features we need.
* Setup development environment based on Ant and Ivy
* Create a project in JIRA with the different components (core, jdbc, ...) registered
Once this is done we can start building the new implementation using the power of the MC.
Feel free to send your feedback on using the MC + AOP as the foundation and Ant+Ivy as the development environment. -
2. Re: The JBoss JCA container project
jeffzhang Jul 2, 2008 11:00 PM (in response to jesper.pedersen)Here is my +1 :)
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3. Re: The JBoss JCA container project
adrian.brock Jul 3, 2008 5:35 AM (in response to jesper.pedersen)"jesper.pedersen" wrote:
Ant+Ivy as the development environment.
Can't you just use Maven? It's not perfect, but it works when you know
once you get used to it and avoid the pitfalls.
* I don't want to learn another build system unless I have to
* I don't want yet another repostiroy on my disk, I've got enough copies
of thirdparty jars as it is :-)
* Everybody else is moving to Maven -
4. Re: The JBoss JCA container project
vickyk Jul 3, 2008 5:44 AM (in response to jesper.pedersen)"adrian@jboss.org" wrote:
Can't you just use Maven? It's not perfect, but it works when you know
once you get used to it and avoid the pitfalls.
It is better to try new *perfect* tool ;) , it may be Ive . -
5. Re: The JBoss JCA container project
adrian.brock Jul 3, 2008 6:01 AM (in response to jesper.pedersen)"vickyk" wrote:
"adrian@jboss.org" wrote:
Can't you just use Maven? It's not perfect, but it works when you know
once you get used to it and avoid the pitfalls.
It is better to try new *perfect* tool ;) , it may be Ive .
In no way is "ant" perfect. Its just programming/scripting in xml (yuck!).
It only looks good against maven because maven has a larger learning curve
and it is more buggy.
As I've said in the past, "Maven is a nice idea poorly implemented".
Equally I could say ant is a bad idea implemented well. ;-) -
6. Re: The JBoss JCA container project
jesper.pedersen Jul 3, 2008 6:28 AM (in response to jesper.pedersen)Well, the reason I suggested Ivy for dependency management was that I know that Carlo and Andy have problems with Maven in the EJB3 project. The dependency management in Maven is going to be reimplemented in Maven-2.1 - I don't like the sound of that.
With this project being integrated into multiple branches of other projects dependency management is important in both directions.
Like you said Ant is a bad idea implemented well, and Ivy have an almost 100% focus on dependency management and integrates with Maven repositories.
I'm not married to the idea -- we can switch if we run into problems -- but the overall concept of Ivy sounds like it will solve the problems that Ant based build environments has. Well, not the overall programming/scripting in XML stuff ;)
I'll setup a project on my machine and test the integration with the JBoss Maven repository, so we don't end up with multiple repositories on our disks.
Thanks for your feedback, guys !