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1. Re: Thoughts on Administration/Use cases
lhoriman Apr 23, 2006 10:59 PM (in response to acoliver)"acoliver@jboss.org" wrote:
this is essentially a graphical editor for the jboss-service.xml file
How does that work in a cluster?
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2. Re: Thoughts on Administration/Use cases
acoliver Apr 24, 2006 7:52 AM (in response to acoliver)you geets to got to each node and manage it seperately for 1.0. Have a plan for later releases to implement a heuristic for this. The approach will work for a cluster just the implementation is more complicated then we will be able to accomplish in the remaining time alloted.
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3. Re: Thoughts on Administration/Use cases
gozilla May 8, 2006 4:46 AM (in response to acoliver)Wouldn't it better than to store all this dynamic config inside the database ? It will then be automatically cluster ready.
The jboss-service.xml would only be used for a blank DB.
Or removed completelly, if the installer can have a part ran against a live instance.
Francois -
4. Re: Thoughts on Administration/Use cases
acoliver May 8, 2006 9:13 AM (in response to acoliver)And where per say does the DB config go? And what if there IS no database but only LDAP? And how about dependency declaration? And what about unix sysadmins who HATE GUI tools and prefer to push files?
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5. Re: Thoughts on Administration/Use cases
sappenin May 8, 2006 9:41 AM (in response to acoliver)Would it make sense to NOT use a DB with JBMS? I suppose you could use the filesystem, but it seems like that would be not the best solution. Also, I suppose you could somehow store JBMS message data in an LDAP repository (along with the user credential stuff), but it seems that would be dreadfully slow (LDAP is very efficient for reads, not so much for large amounts of writes).
I'm reminded of the JBoss ON admin tool - it seems to be able to effect changes across multiple Jboss AS's that are managed by the tool -- AND each JBAS uses an XML file and an installed agent. Would it be possible to use that mechanism (there might be licensing issues there)?
David -
6. Re: Thoughts on Administration/Use cases
gozilla May 8, 2006 11:04 AM (in response to acoliver)"acoliver@jboss.org" wrote:
And where per say does the DB config go? And what if there IS no database but only LDAP? And how about dependency declaration? And what about unix sysadmins who HATE GUI tools and prefer to push files?
* DB: obviously can't go to the DB. Well, maybe in another DB ;-)
* No DB ? Are you serious ? LDAP anyway can be accessed as a DB, certainly for configs which are a read-mostly pattern.
* dependencies: I didn't though about them. Maybe a database backed virtual file system then ?.
* I hate guis too, but some times, I've to admit they are usefull.
Cheers,
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7. Re: Thoughts on Administration/Use cases
acoliver May 8, 2006 2:31 PM (in response to acoliver)But if I have a flat text file and the tools to manage it then what is the problem? I don't have to worry about LDAP vs DB or X or Y or Z....I can leverage the existing JBoss microkernel without writing my won dependency management stuff. And stuff just kinda works... And best of all, I have like 0 more work to do. Now everything is really GUI stuff. All the hard stuff was stuff I'd of had to do anyhow.