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1. Re: jBPM versus MS Workflow
kukeltje Jul 22, 2008 7:27 PM (in response to dangrindstaff)Uhm.... my personal comments
- .NET 3.5 is stable, just like jBPM 3.2.3 is stable... or JDK 1.5.0_02 is stable. If you would have said .NET is stable, then it is a different thing (4 releases in?). The jBPM API has not changed that much in the last 2 years, so I'd say it is quite stable.
From your statement I cannot determine where persistence and thread synchronization (aren't they two only partly related things?) are more robust in MS Workflow then in jBPM. The latter uses Hibernate which is really robust. The relation with Rich Clients is totally unclear to me, since jBPM can be used in stand-alone, pure web or rich client implementations. If you could elaborate a little more, I can try to comment.
Comparing the MS Workflow 'platform' to jBPM is imo comparing apples to grapes (not even oranges). I think you should include SEAM, JBossTools etc... to have a real comparison (I do not know the details of MS Workflow)
So even with my basic knowledge of MS Workflow, I have to say you statement of 'superiour' is a bold statement and needs more detailed arguments (yes, I'm biased, but I get the feeling you are to ;-) ) -
2. Re: jBPM versus MS Workflow
shiyusen Jul 23, 2008 5:28 PM (in response to dangrindstaff)grin1dan,
Here's a standard method which can help you to make such decisions:
(You can adjust the following. But next time, please give the list you scored jBPM and MS Workflow when you try to discuss this topic further more.)
1. Standard:
weight: 20%
including the following subitems:
1.1 Architecture: Java, .NET, PHP, PERL and etc.
weight: 10%
score: 1-5
1.2 Workflow standards: BPEL and etc.
weight: 10%
score: 1-5
2. Long term assurance:
weight: 25%
including the following subitems:
2.1 Popular: I use google rank to judge it's worldwide popularity.
weight: 10%
score: 1-5
2.2 Stable team:
weight: 10%
score: 1-5
2.3 Stable firm:
weight: 5%
score: 1-5
3. Key Functions:
weight: 55%
including the key functions required in your project.
Regards,
Shi Yusen/Beijing Langhua Ltd. -
3. Re: jBPM versus MS Workflow
dangrindstaff Jul 24, 2008 9:50 AM (in response to dangrindstaff)Thank you for your feedback all! I have enjoyed playing Devil's advocate!;) I look forward to more posts from any and all. It has been, and continues to be a pleasure to research this, try to build demos and get feedback from the braintrust. Please post more if you have the time and desire!
Thanks, Dan