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1. Re: JBoss Portal x Liferay Portal x eXo Portal
theute May 26, 2008 3:20 PM (in response to joncmuniz)JBoss Portal doesn't provide applications (such as the blog you mention, blog is a totally independent project of jboss.org btw, you could host your own project on it if you wanted, such as Kosmos portlets which are not developped by JBoss employees).
JBoss Portal provides a framework to build *your* portal. (JBoss is still a middleware division)
We don't expect you to use the default portal that exists on the demo, it's just a way to "show" something. So if you want to provide a better out of the box portal, feel free to contribute but that's not the value we create so little time is spent on this (I know it has an impact for people evaluating our product by just looking at the demo box)
We offer services for portals, such as identity, sso, wsrp, portlet container, theme and layout, user management (talking about API here) and personalization... We also ensure that it scales and work fine in a portal environment.
Our users/customers build their own portlets on top of this framework with technologies such as JSF, Struts, Seam... They usually have strong requirements and will not live with any out of the box forum or blog portlet, they want *their* features, *their* layout...
So since we don't provide applications, we are probably less visible in some area. For large scale developments, we are very visible and competitive but those customers are unfortunately to shy on becoming references :(
That said, we partnered with Alfresco (ECM) and Pentaho, for the application side, more partnership of this kind could happen.
I hope that i was clear enough. -
2. Re: JBoss Portal x Liferay Portal x eXo Portal
joncmuniz May 26, 2008 4:26 PM (in response to joncmuniz)Sure you were clear enough.
and I agree with you.
I think that could then be more careful especially with the demo does not show messages from mistakes and seek more professional attitudes regarding partners (as in the example the message of the blog http://www.jboss.org/jbossblog/downloads/
Please visit in a month:) you wait a month and nothing new)
I prefer using Jboss exactly for everything that you spoke, the more it's difficult to convince people when you have such things.
This shows a certain neglect. -
3. Re: JBoss Portal x Liferay Portal x eXo Portal
theute May 26, 2008 4:37 PM (in response to joncmuniz)Again, jboss.org is like a Sourceforge. You can have any project, JBoss Portal doesn't control that.
About the demo box, we decided to give full admin rights and swipe everything every 2 hours (i think). Since anyone can have full admin rights, it's easy to break stuff.
I sure wish we had more time to provide a very polished demo portal, but this comes low in priority. (or i should say that there are too many high priorities) -
4. Re: JBoss Portal x Liferay Portal x eXo Portal
pavel.myshkin May 27, 2008 6:03 AM (in response to joncmuniz)JBoss Portal is GREAT!!!
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5. Re: JBoss Portal x Liferay Portal x eXo Portal
je.a.le May 27, 2008 7:48 AM (in response to joncmuniz)Jbossportal (and jboss) are far from easy to get with. The docs/tutorials are not bad but miss many keys point, like the use of jbossportlet instead of genericportlet.
Anyway both are powerfull soft.
For me jbossportal is not a cms, but more a site/portal engine : out of the box you cannot do much. Links it with entreprise application, repositories, dwr, ajax etc... you can do whatever you want. jbp is not for end user.
If you have a team, time, can code, want to control every tiny part of yours sites, where/how to store your datas etc : that's your tool. Only want to publish few static pages with perhaps a simple db, on a single site : pick something else.