injected objects don't get passivated - or do they ?

[codelion]

Some objects live a long time, e.g. application scoped components, EJBs with timers, and I guess MDBs.

Now if there is an @In, will that object that's been injected be passivated ever, sometimes, or never?

As passivation occurs only outside a business method call (right?) there shouldn't be a need for anything to be in that field, it could/should be null.

But does it get cleared to null? On exit of the business method call? Or can it sometimes not be null? E.g. in case of some specific kind of exception?

I think it would be desirable for those injected fields not being passivated ever.

[norman.richards]

Injected values are cleared after the invocation, so you won't be hanging on to the values long enough to care about passivation.

[codelion]

Great!

That means I don't have to worry about injecting an object that has a huge tree of objects hanging off it. At least no worry about passivation.

Still trying to figure how to reduce the amount of "stuff" that JSF thinks is state worth shipping to the browser and back, but that's another story.