found a bug on this site during new topic creation

[admin.admin.email.tld]

I was able to reproduce the javascript error using IE7 a few times.

1) start a new topic
2) enter something with annotation in the subject (e.g. @Asynchronous)
3) enter body text
4) save
5) javascript error displays
6) click no to debug
7) save (seems to) hang for minutes
8) transaction is never committed for the insert

It would be nice to be able to edit your own posts as well.

The Sun forums are pretty damn good...

[christian.bauer]

Do not use Internet Explorer. If you still want to use it, check out the code and submit your patches to make it work with Internet Explorer. (P.S. Our logs show that only 8% of the visitors are using IE, so this is not a priority.)

[christian.bauer]

And because I'm sure you will ask about it: Yes, I spent several days making the basic layout and functionality work on Internet Explorer 7, including posting on the forum. Of course this browser is so buggy that I probably missed dozens of issues. You are very welcome to fix these if you can reproduce them.

[nickarls]

Christian Bauer wrote on Feb 21, 2008 07:26 PM:


(P.S. Our logs show that only 8% of the visitors are using IE, so this is not a priority.)

Wow, a true nerd-site, quite a deviation from mainstream stats. What was the top browser? Lynx? ;-)

[admin.admin.email.tld]

The Rod Johnson attitude is not appreciated or helpful.  I'm just trying to help the situation with the myriad of problems on this forum/site.

if this is the case, post a note in the sidebar (or help section) stating not to use IE.  this will save users a lot of headache and time.  I tend to use IE at work b/c our Seam apps use NTLM authentication via JCIFS and it works best with IE.

I also noticed that when I highlight a code block and select code block from the drop-down, the ticks are placed after the highlighted text when using IE7.

Also, is the selection of the tick and quote characters that of the Seam dev group or part of Seam text parsing requirements?  How can I do a quote block and have quotes in the text that is being marked?

It seems to me the older Seam forum was easier to use, performed better and had advanced search functionality that is lacking here.  The 3 second AJAX update preview functionality and ratings functionality is cute but unnecessary.

[admin.admin.email.tld]

request adding functionality to edit your own posts.

[nickarls]

Christian (and many others, I am sure) have done a nice job on this site while doing loads of other stuff and I can understand that it is annoying to get flooded with requests etc.

IE7 might be a marginal browser amongst the current users but there is always the risk of people thinking Seam has issues with IE7 when the showcase app has issues, even if it would have nothing to do with Seam itself.

So lets help them make it better by filing JIRAs. The marked text + function is reproducible so I'll create that one...

[admin.admin.email.tld]

To be clear: I'm not requesting this bug to be fixed (at the time of reporting it, I did not know it was browser-specific, I wrongly assumed it was a bug related to the webapp, or perhaps it's both).  I have absolutely no problem using Firefox with this site/forum.

But I definitely think it would be helpful to a lot of Seam users if there were code samples in the knowledge base or elsewhere on this site.

Yes, I know a lot of this is available in the Seam examples but how about use cases implemented with a form and rich:datascroller component embedded in rich:modalPanel components? CRUD example using Toplink as the JPA persistence provider?

Best practices, explanations and examples of Seam design patterns (e.g. Factory component pattern and manager component pattern, EntityHome) or how to setup a two-node cluster for a Seam app deployed on JBoss and Linux/Windows.  How to use Eclipse TPTP with Seam apps.

[nickarls]

Arbi Sookazian wrote on Feb 22, 2008 05:52 PM:


request adding functionality to edit your own posts.

There seems to be a JIRA for it, vote there.

[nickarls]

Arbi Sookazian wrote on Feb 22, 2008 05:49 PM:


I also noticed that when I highlight a code block and select code block from the drop-down, the ticks are placed after the highlighted text when using IE7.

I created a JIRA for that one, JS wizards welcome to the discussion.

[pmuir]

Arbi Sookazian wrote on Feb 22, 2008 06:39 PM:


To be clear: I'm not requesting this bug to be fixed (at the time of reporting it, I did not know it was browser-specific, I wrongly assumed it was a bug related to the webapp, or perhaps it's both).  I have absolutely no problem using Firefox with this site/forum.

We can fix the IE bugs with help from our users - it's just not a development priority.

But I definitely think it would be helpful to a lot of Seam users if there were code samples in the knowledge base or elsewhere on this site.

Yes, but thats not really related to this topic?

It seems to me the older Seam forum was easier to use,

How? We can't improve this forum without specific feedback.

performed better

Jay is going to be working on this over the next few weeks - we know its a problem. Best bit is that we can easily fix any performance problems upstream in Seam, which benefits you.

and had advanced search functionality that is lacking here.

Huh? The search on the old forum was unusable - the results seemed completely random to me, and you couldn't e.g. search for a post with keywords by a particular author (a bug). Whilst the search here is superb - every time I've done a keyword search it returns the page/topic I want top of the list. Again, we need specifc feedback.

The 3 second AJAX update preview functionality and ratings functionality is cute but unnecessary.

The AJAX preview is personal preference I guess. The ratings is necessary to build the community and improve the SNR on the forum.

[admin.admin.email.tld]

check out the phpBB forums.  those allow you to edit your own posts as well as offer good search functionality.  performance is very good.

here's an example

[nickarls]

Pete Muir wrote on Feb 25, 2008 11:26 PM:

The ratings is necessary to build the community and improve the SNR on the forum.

There was a brief SNR/ratings-related discussion in this JIRA. Are there any suggestions on how to get people to use them?

I am sure that many think the stars are just some sort of read-only-value of current rank(?)

[nickarls]

Arbi Sookazian wrote on Feb 26, 2008 01:09 AM:


check out the phpBB forums.  those allow you to edit your own posts as well as offer good search functionality.  performance is very good.

It would defeat the purpose of seamframework.org a little to use a PHP based forum, wouldn't it? ;-)

I'm sure they will iron out the performance issues, there is no better way to simulate user load than... users and that gives them something to profile on.

[pmuir]

Arbi Sookazian wrote on Feb 26, 2008 01:09 AM:


check out the phpBB forums.  those allow you to edit your own posts as well as offer good search functionality.  performance is very good.

here's an example

We know all about phpBB from http://forum.hibernate.org ;-).