where should i start learning?

[elhanan]

hi all..

i'm new to seem, and i'm wondering where should i start learning, is there a tutorial for using seam in eclispe? or should i start with a tutorial on seam itself, and try to figure out on how to use with in eclipse?

also how do i know my eclipse (i have europa) wtp version (becouse of the memory leak bug i've read about).

[nickarls]

I recommending using JBoss Tools and the reference manual (there is a JBoss Tools section in the svn but I don't think its out anywhere).

There was some deployment issue with EARs but there is a patch for it nowadays available through the update manager if I'm not mistaken.

[trouby]

Hey Elhanan (you'r probably from IL right?) :)

I would go for http://docs.jboss.com/seam/1.0.1.GA/reference/en/html/tutorial.html for the start,

of course if you want easier life you can work with Jboss Tools although I personally preferred to work without it at the beginning (as it hides too many important things),

So if you want easier life, work with Jboss Tools, but anyway the tutorial is fanstatic and provides you some simple examples,

btw: read the samples, at least part of them, the booking hotel is a great way to start,

Gluck.
Asaf.

[elhanan]

don't you mean
http://docs.jboss.com/seam/2.0.2.GA/reference/en-US/html/tutorial.html

yes i am from israel, i'm looking for a way to work as freelancer building small web application with a free and easy to use tool which highly available (as well as gaining expirience)
i have no idea if jsf is takin on in israel.

i do want easier life, and i do want to understand important things, but i won't things to work first.

[dan.j.allen]

Given that I have dedicated the entire last year to understanding and documenting Seam, I have no shame in saying that if you really want to learn about Seam, then you should commit to reading Seam in Action. I wrote this book because I wanted to give developers such as you the best possible chance to see success with Seam. (I definitely didn't do it for the money).

[jnusaira]

lol ... yeah i agree no one really writes for the money :(

To the OP ... i suggest one of the books out there, i believe there are now like 5-6 seam books at least.

Yuan has two, i have one, there is a practical seam, and there is Dan Allen's book as well ... his being the newest by far.

Three things to focus on when learning (IMHO).

1) The contexts, and how they work. I see way tooo many new Seam developers abusing or under using them.

2) The annotations, look them up in the API there are tons and probably one for anything you need.

3) Built in components - literally more than one can list, just today i made use of the server time and locale components.

If you are a new developer skip the jBPM stuff it may complicate you too much. Also if you are new to EJB3 pick up a good JPA book. I used Pro EJB3, i found it very good but i was also familiar with hibernate before.

[elhanan]

thanks what version does it cover (tools, and seam) and amazon says it's not out yet