[cpineda]

In a POJO, am I supposed to capture that handles User IdentityImpl, so BeanManager should help with this.

[lightguard]

We seem to be going around quite a bit, I have to ask, why are you trying to avoid injection?

[cpineda]

One is to get the User of IdetityImpl and can manipulate at will

[lightguard]

I may be missing something here, but I don't understand how injection is impeding that - the manipulate at will part. For the User of it, you're looking for the currently logged in user accessing it? If that's the case, seems like a decorator would help there.

[cpineda]

Ok. but first I want to get the intanciar BeanManager for the Identity manually. is as close to my solution.

[lightguard]

You'll want to either @Inject BeanManager or use what we've done in Apache DeltaSpike: https://github.com/apache/incubator-deltaspike/blob/master/deltaspike/core/api/src/main/java/org/apache/deltaspike/core/api/provider/BeanManagerProvider.java

[cpineda]

Ok. manipulation of BeanManager interesting but as is the handling of manually Identity?

[lightguard]

You can't get the Identity from Seam 3 without injection, or retrieving it from the BeanManager. Even if you created a new one using new, it wouldn't work properly because it has injections as well. The only way to get it to work correctly is to either @Inject it or to retreive it manually from the BeanManager.

[cpineda]

ok. thanks