SwitchYard No Longer Basis for SOA-P 6?

[archsynthe]

I was puzzled to see last week the announcement from Red Hat that a public beta of the new SOA-P 6 has been released based on FuseSource Works.  I had been wondering why the public beta was taking so long to be released, and I guess I now have my answer.  It appears the previously published SOA-P 6 documentation based on the SwitchYard release has been pulled down from the knowledge base.  Can you give us any details on why the switch was made?  Will you be continuing to develop the community SwitchYard project if it isn't going to be used in an official Red Hat product?  I have a development group here that has been doing a significant amount of work based on SwitchYard, which now has to switch gears because it won't be available as a supported product.  I think for now we are just going to build on top of JBoss EAP and wait to see what happens with the SOA-P product in the final release.

[lilian-arnaud]

As far as I understood, SOA-P6 is based on Switchyard. Just the branding changed.

[kcbabo]

Don't worry, nothing has changed in terms of SwitchYard being supported in the product platform.  What we were calling SOA Platform 6 before will now become Fuse Service Works 6.  The underlying platform is the same, with EAP 6 + SwitchYard + Camel.

No changes at all here other than the name of the product.

[staffsgull]

Thanks for the clarity Keith.  I have a couple of customers who will be very interested in this as a supported product from RedHat, any idea when the costings for commercial product will be out?

[archsynthe]

Well, thanks for the clarification Keith, although I find the naming choice horrifically confusing.  Does this mean that JBoss now has two separate ESB products with the name "Fuse" in them (one which is JBoss EAP + SwitchYard, and another which is Fuse ESB)?  Or are you renaming the Fuse ESB to something else as well?  Is the name JBoss SOA Platform going away?

[kcbabo]

Rod Higgins wrote:

Thanks for the clarity Keith.  I have a couple of customers who will be very interested in this as a supported product from RedHat, any idea when the costings for commercial product will be out?

Send me a private message through the forums and I can get you hooked up someone that can provide those answers.

[kcbabo]

archsynthe wrote:

Well, thanks for the clarification Keith, although I find the naming choice horrifically confusing.  Does this mean that JBoss now has two separate ESB products with the name "Fuse" in them (one which is JBoss EAP + SwitchYard, and another which is Fuse ESB)?  Or are you renaming the Fuse ESB to something else as well?  Is the name JBoss SOA Platform going away?

The name JBoss SOA Platform is going away.  We use a lot of the same foundational technology between Fuse ESB and Fuse Service Works (Apache Camel, CXF, ActiveMQ), so I feel the new name attempts to capture the sense that the product suite is an extension of these technologies with specific feature sets addressing different customer requirements.  That's what it said on the side of the Kool-Aid cup anyway.