8 Replies Latest reply on Jan 16, 2014 6:32 PM by rdavidso

    JBoss Fuse in production environments

    sobkowiak

      Hi

       

      I'm working in a software company developing custom solutions for out customers. Assume I'd like to build my next solution using JBoss Fuse (or JBoss A-MQ).

       

      May I freely use JBoss Fuse to develop the solution? Can JBoss Fuse be used freely on productive environments? If not:

      • which fees/subscriptions should my company pay developing the solution?
      • which fees/subscriptions should my customer pay using the Fuse on the production environment? 

       

      I understand that subscription gives us the professional support from Red Hat. May we use JBoss Fuse with no subscriptions when we don't need the support? Where can I find the prices for the subscriptions?

       

      May I use the Fuse Fabric (not full JBoss Fuse) without any fees on production environments?

       

      Best regards

      Krzysztof

        • 1. Re: JBoss Fuse in production environments
          james.lopez

          As of now, JBoss Fuse and Red Hat fuse are identical code, so there is very little if any risk just using the community version until you decide you need support.

           

          For Fuse "support" is not only the documentation and customer services now hosted on the Red Hat Customer Portal, but it's also access to JBoss Operations Network and Fabric Management Console. In the future, there may also be stability and security patches that are only available to subscribing customers.

           

          JBoss Operations Network and Fabric Management Console are highly recommended for production environments, but you are not obligated to use them. How will you monitor the health of your systems and manage their configurations?

          • 2. Re: JBoss Fuse in production environments
            sobkowiak

            I have often heard about community version of Fuse. Is this jboss-fuse/fuse · GitHub the community version? Does it mean, I can build the source code and use in production environment without subscription? Can I find somewhere releases of the community version?

            • 3. Re: JBoss Fuse in production environments
              james.lopez

              Yes, that is the community code repo. The community releases are available for download from JBoss Products. You don't need a subscription to build and use the code in that repo, but keep in mind Fuse uses the Apache license: fuse/license.txt at master · jboss-fuse/fuse · GitHub

              • 4. Re: JBoss Fuse in production environments
                sobkowiak

                But in JBoss site (Red Hat JBoss Fuse)  I can find following comment

                 

                Registration required. Downloads require accepting the terms and conditions of the JBoss Developer Program which provides $0 subscriptions for development use only.

                 

                What does it mean?

                • 5. Re: JBoss Fuse in production environments
                  james.lopez

                  That's a good catch. I haven't seen that before, but it looks like if you download the compiled product you must agree to not use Fuse in production.

                  The source is released under the apache license.

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                  • 6. Re: JBoss Fuse in production environments
                    davsclaus

                    Yes if you download the binaries from jboss fuse site, you must agree the EULA which states you must not use it in production without a subscription.

                     

                    The community version is being rebranded as fabric8 and launched on a new website at fabric8.io. And we will do community released binaries and publish them to maven central etc.

                    Today you would need to build from the source yourself from github if you want the community version.

                     

                    So stay tuned for the fabric8.io launch. They we are busy working on the JBoss Fuse 6.1 release. So it may take a while to get time to do the community launch.

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                    • 7. Re: JBoss Fuse in production environments
                      sobkowiak

                      Hi Claus

                       

                      Thanks for the answer. I have been trying to get this information for a long time. Now it clarifies all my questions.

                      • 8. Re: JBoss Fuse in production environments
                        rdavidso

                        Hi Claus,

                         

                        Thanks for the answer. I am glad to hear that the community edition is being rebranded and it will have released binaries. Is there any plans to move Fabric over to ASF?

                         

                        Thanks,

                        Richard