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1. Re: Is there a map somewhere of which Wildfly versions the jBoss EAP versions are based on?
jaysensharma Nov 3, 2015 10:10 AM (in response to bjornwarmedal)Hello,
Regarding your query: "Is there a map somewhere of which Wildfly versions the jBoss EAP versions are based on?"
>>>> So far there is no Red Hat EAP version available which is based on WildFly. As part of the rename of the JBoss Application Server (JBossAS) project to WildFly. WildFly 8 is the first WildFly version.
Yes, it is possible to find out which version of JBossAS the EAP release is based on : https://access.redhat.com/articles/112673#EAP_6
The above article says that EAP 6.1.0 is based on 7.2.0 Final, Similarly you will find other version details.
The JBossAS 7.5.0 Final/7.4.0 Final/7.3.0 Final are Red Hat internal Tags of JBossAS which are not available in the public git repo.
JBoss EAP 6.4.0 is based on Red Hat internal tag of JBossAS 7.5.0 Final
Regarding your query: "when did Red Hat start the subscription programme for jBoss? Has a license always been needed?"
>>>> JBoss EAP can be also downloaded from Outside the Red Hat customer portal like from : http://www.jboss.org/products/eap/download/
But in that case you will need to accept the terms and conditions of the JBoss Developer Program which provides $0 subscriptions for development use only. Read more about the JBoss Developer Program. You can find more info on 0 $ subscription in http://www.jboss.org/faq/
However for Production usage you will need to get Red Hat Subscription.
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2. Re: Is there a map somewhere of which Wildfly versions the jBoss EAP versions are based on?
jdoyle Nov 3, 2015 10:10 AM (in response to bjornwarmedal)I don't have a precise date, but EAP has been available by subscription for about 7 years at least.
The closest bits available that can be run in production (adhering to the T&C) are the Alpha bits of EAP that we release on jboss.org. All of the WildFly releases are a mixture of EAP features developed in upstream that are ported back to an EAP release, features that will be released in EAP at a later time (Like EE7), and bug fixes. There is not a simple mapping.
Regards,
~john
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3. Re: Is there a map somewhere of which Wildfly versions the jBoss EAP versions are based on?
jaysensharma Nov 3, 2015 10:18 AM (in response to bjornwarmedal)Correction Regarding my last line :
" However for Production usage you will need to get Red Hat Subscription. " (NOT accurate)
Please read above as following:
$0 Subscription/ the Developer Program subscription is that the Red Hat JBoss Developer Program is intended for individual developer-use only. Integration, test and production environments will require a paid subscription.
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4. Re: Is there a map somewhere of which Wildfly versions the jBoss EAP versions are based on?
bjornwarmedal Nov 3, 2015 11:00 AM (in response to jaysensharma)SenSharma, I'm confused about the licensing now. I was under the impression that development was free. Reading the terms and conditions (Terms and Conditions) brings no clarity either. I can easily see how they can be interpreted either way.
It now appears our organization is leaning towards Wildfly. Partly to avoid imposing licensing fees on our clients and partly because we want to be certain of our own licensing demands.
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5. Re: Is there a map somewhere of which Wildfly versions the jBoss EAP versions are based on?
ctomc Nov 3, 2015 11:45 AM (in response to jdoyle)John Doyle wrote:
I don't have a precise date, but EAP has been available by subscription for about 7 years at least.
according to https://access.redhat.com/support/policy/updates/jboss_notes
first version of EAP that provided subscription was 4.2 which was released in June 2007, so bit more than 8 years now
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6. Re: Is there a map somewhere of which Wildfly versions the jBoss EAP versions are based on?
jaysensharma Nov 3, 2015 12:09 PM (in response to bjornwarmedal)1 of 1 people found this helpfulHello Björn,
You mentioned that "I was under the impression that development was free." As per the JBoss Developer FAQ JBoss developer program 0$ subscription for development, means you do not need to pay anything to run JBoss EAP in development. Any one can download those JBoss EAP directly from: JBoss EAP - Downloads
Here are some good white papers explaining the importance and value of RedHat middleware Subscriptions.
http://www.redhat.com/f/pdf/RH_ValueSubscription_3680017_0810_cw_web.pdf
Following video explains well , how and why to choose enterprise bits for production and why community bits.
"3:12" minutes this following video explains why EAP imposes subscription fees.