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SNMP Status and Future Plans

deruelle_jean Jan 21, 2010 7:24 AM

Hi all,

I wanted to know if anyone could give me some insight on the status and future plans for SNMP Support in JBoss AS (and potentially other projects)
I dig a bit and so far I have found 2 things :

Jopr supports SNMP traps for Jopr Alerts : http://mc4j.org/confluence/display/JOPR2/SNMP+Trap+Notifications

However, in my understanding, it doesn't support interaction in the sense that it is not possible to configure the JBoss AS from a distant SNMP agent.
Also if one application needs to generate SNMP traps or respond to some events it is not possible neither with it

There is also the JBoss SNMP Adapter : http://community.jboss.org/wiki/JBossSNMPAdapter
>From the wiki page : "It can be used to intercept JMX notifications emitted by MBeans, convert them to SNMP traps and send them to SNMP managers. In this respect the snmp-adaptor acts as an SNMP agent. It supports also basic get and getNext so one can now query snmp-oids, which in turn are mapped to JMX attribute gets." Apparently set are possible as well by looking deeper at this pagehttp://community.jboss.org/wiki/JBossSNMPAdapterGetValues

However under the covers it uses the JoeSNMP third party lib which doesn't sound very active anymore (no new releases since 2006 and stuck in version 0.3.4) and not support which version of the protocol it supports (it seems v1 and v2 but not 100% sure)
Also it seems the MIB that ships by default is rather empty and doesn't let you interact much with JBoss AS

I didn't gather any formal requirements but I guess allowing monitoring and controlling the AS through SNMP similar to the way it is possible through JMX would be enough.
Also maybe have a way for other services to augment the MIB and attributes.xml with their own attribtues in some way (at runtime, but I fear this would impact server startup time though) to avoid exposing service attributes if the service is not deployed (but not sure if it is doable though)
What would be the procedure currently if I need to add attributes, notifications for Mobicents containers ? (I only see overriding the current files with our own upon bundling Mobicents, would it be ok if we do that ?)

Regarding Mobicents/JBoss Communications Platform, SNMP support is a must have, so I wanted to know the future plans for SNMP if any.

Thanks in advance

Best regards

Jean Deruelle

1. Re: SNMP Status and Future Plans

dimitris Jan 21, 2010 7:36 AM (in response to deruelle_jean)

We don't have any concrete plans or requirements over the snmp adapter, however, Brian Shim is currently looking at replacing the joesnmp network stack with snmp4j. There are many ideas as to how the adapter could be extended to support all sorts of this, but we need to see how much time we want to spend on this.

Regarding the configuration question, as it is now, you need to modify the configuration file to put there your changes. Maybe we need a more extensible mechanism, so services can dynamically register/unregister their mappings.
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deruelle_jean Jan 21, 2010 7:42 AM (in response to dimitris)

Thanks Dimitris for the heads up !

Mobicents team is willing to help on this if you need a hand.
Feel free to update us with useful information, links to help us getting started

Thanks in advance
Best regards
Jean
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dimitris Jan 21, 2010 7:46 AM (in response to deruelle_jean)

I'll find out the current status and come back to you... Thanks for the offer :-)
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deruelle_jean Mar 19, 2010 12:49 PM (in response to dimitris)

Just pinging to know the status of things

Thanks in advance
Jean
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aayush19 Apr 20, 2010 1:20 AM (in response to deruelle_jean)

SNMP support is a must have feature, especially for telecom applications (both web apps deployed in the telecom domain and protocol apps). Any future plans regarding SNMP support and clarity regarding the same are appreciated.
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6. SNMP Status and Future Plans

deruelle_jean Jan 18, 2011 9:49 AM (in response to deruelle_jean)

For people tracking this, there is an open issue at https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBPAPP-5592
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7. SNMP Status and Future Plans

deruelle_jean Jan 25, 2011 4:40 AM (in response to deruelle_jean)

Linking to the related Thread on mobicents google group http://groups.google.com/group/mobicents-public/browse_thread/thread/b76125f3dea885de
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pgracio Apr 24, 2012 11:11 AM (in response to deruelle_jean)

Hello Jean, trying to access the mentioned issue I get an error message "Permission Violation". Isn't it public?
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deruelle_jean Apr 24, 2012 11:17 AM (in response to pgracio)

Not sure, I can access it on my end. You can see the doco for it here https://docs.jboss.org/author/display/MOBICENTS/SNMP+Adaptor
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pgracio May 2, 2012 6:03 AM (in response to deruelle_jean)

Hello Jean, does it works on jboss-as-7.1.1.Final? According to the documentation it doesn't seam to support once the samples use folders structure from older versions of jboss.
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11. Re: SNMP Status and Future Plans

deruelle_jean May 2, 2012 4:58 PM (in response to pgracio)

No the work was done only for JBoss AS5 and AS7 was still under heavy work, the Adaptor will have to be refactored a bit to be able to plug into AS7, do you want to take a crack at it ?
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pgracio May 3, 2012 10:31 AM (in response to deruelle_jean)

Why not! What do I need to do to get started?
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deruelle_jean May 10, 2012 8:05 AM (in response to pgracio)

You can get the code from http://code.google.com/p/commscale/source/browse/?repo=snmp-adaptor and the code for JBoss AS 7 from https://github.com/jbossas/jboss-as/tree/7.1.1.Final.
You may want to subscribe to the AS7 Mailing list https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jboss-as7-dev
There you can ask questions and pointers on the current management capabilities of AS7, You may want to ask if JMX is still exposed as the current SNMP Adapter is a wrapper around the JMX attributes and operations of the JBoss AS 5 Container so that could ease the work int just abstracting out how the Adaptor is plugged into each container as a first step.

You can also join the IRC of both #jboss and #mobicents channels on freenode

Jean
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andreadi Aug 21, 2012 4:54 AM (in response to deruelle_jean)

Hello,

has anyone done any work for Jboss 7.1.1? I didn't see the code you posted change since Nov 11 so I would assume not unless it is located somewhere else.
Any information would be of much help, thank you in advance.

Kind Regards
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