BoxGrinder IDE development
taha.ozket Feb 22, 2011 3:03 PMHi,
I have an experince on Eclipse IDE development. I want to contribute BoxGrinder IDE project. I contacted with Marek Goldmann. We discussed on this project. I am sending my maillings for your opinions.
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I want to contribute open source world with your BoxGrinder IDE project personally. I want to ask, is there any developer reference for BoxGrinder Studio or IDE? Any UML diagrams or screen sketches? If there is nothing, I can start without them, no problem, I can make a poc work for BoxGrinder IDE then I send source to you after that I get your opinions then we can continue over them.
For IDE prototype; I have a some ideas; I want to share with you. I think create a layer on top of BoxGrinder Build is not an good option, IDE has to be different connection definitions and user select Build server then manage this. (over REST)
Did you use Apache Directory Studio? I have an idea like this studio, it is connecting to LDAP server, then getting ldap tree for modifying/adding ldap entries. Like this; we can connect IDE to BoxGrinder REST server. BoxGrinder Rest server does not only responses REST requests. Can we store appliance templates on this server? IDE connects to this server, then get appliance templates, then developer can create appliance from this templates. Or create template from scratch, for this we provide a template editor/wizard to developer. After create an appliance then connect developer to created appliances over ssh terminal, monitor appliances (cpu, memory vs), convert appliances, etc.
There is an architectural question about BoxGrinder REST; will this server only responses REST requests and queue build tasks? Can we store appliance templates and IDE required data? Or add a new server type on BoxGrinder, like ManagementServer (?) for this requirement. I am sending two different arch. designs. If we store appliance definitions on any server, I think it will the best benefit for developer.
Creating a studio on the web a good option, but desktop IDE must I cant use VMware web app, a.js, b.js and another new js! and new errors.. I am using desktop vsphere client and also I hate amazon aws web app, it is very slow and useless. If I can connect over desktop, I will choose desktop one. I think todays web browsers (include chrome) not ready for ultra powerful web applications. (like server management).
For future; users will manage IaaS layer with this IDE. This IDE will an eclipse plugin, so that for PaaS solutions (ex. makara) can easily extend this plugins and use this IDE for PaaS requirements. Then extend plugin for SaaS. Developer developes the code, right click select Platform (managed via IDE) select Infra. (managed via same IDE!) then deploy to cloud. It will very easy
I have a draft plan, I want to share this plan with you;
Step 1- I want to create a prototype for see what can we do on Eclipse. I dont want to start any forum thread without coding anything (But I started for your opinions.-- taha ) For that, I wont wait for REST project, I will use boxgrinder build locally.
For prototype I have a feature list;
-- Wizards
--- Create appliance definition wizard
-- Editors
--- Appliance definition (modify,delete,override etc)
-- Configuration
--- BoxGrinder Plugin Configuration Screens (amazon keys, etc)
-- Run Configurations
--- Build Image
--- Convert Image
--- Deploy Image
-- "My Appliances"
--- List created appliances for connect over ssh.
Step 2 - Create a new thread on forums. I will publish source code and features for get community opinions.
Step 3 - I think Local IDE will be good start point for next steps. Also I think this prototype will help BoxGrinder Studio project about requirements.
This work can be only a start point, we put this IDE to trash and continue with Studio But today someone has to be start work on something for user interface of BoxGrinder. I think BoxGrinder is the best and simple tool for cloud world and have new ideas for this new world (convert vm). I want to help BoxGrinder for move next good step.