What's with the Windows joke?

[geziefer]

I disliked Forge the moment I started it and saw the output "Windows. Really? Ok". I'm far away from being a Microsoft fanboy but this is just sooo primitive.

I know about the advantages of Linux over Windows, but most of the time the IT environment of a company is just set and it's neither polite nor does it make sense affronting people who like to use your software and may not even have a chance to decide about their operation system at work even if the like to do so.

So why don't you guys just leave out this nerdy Windows bashing and use the fact that there are millions of programmers on Windows machines out there who might be a valuable part of your community?

[koen.aers]

Hi Alexander,

At JBoss we try to support all the major platforms as good as possible. Forge is tested on Mac OS X, different Linux flavours and on the Windows releases starting with Windows XP. A lot of us also do development on Windows machines.

The "Windows. Really? Ok" message might be a bit nerdy but it is just a harmless joke and should be considered as such... ;-)

Cheers,

Koen

[lincolnthree]

Hi Alexander,

I'm sorry we have not entirely lived up to your expectations in this regard. I understand that most IT departments are given pre-built machines and that the individual developers have little or no control over their environments. We think it's a silly joke, but I understand why you might feel more strongly about it. Thank you for your feedback, we'll consider this and decide what to do. If you would like to join the discussion, I will be starting a thread about this on our development list today. You can join at https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-dev

Looking forward to continuing the discussion,

~Lincoln

[geziefer]

Well, I don't want to be in a huff, I only regarded it as inappropriate for a serious project to mock about other operation systems.

But I appreciate your comments, so maybe I can give Forge another chance

[lincolnthree]

Well, in all reality it's probably a good thing that you are brought this up (though I did tone down your subject line a little bit hehe) I'm sure a lot of people feel the same way.

http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/forge-dev/2012-July/002288.html

What do you think about some of the ideas raised in our discussion? I basically want to keep the character of this feature, but I certainly don't want to single out individuals or specific groups of individuals.

~Lincoln

[geziefer]

I'm really impressed by the amount and response time of your discussion about the topic I raised here!

To give my opinion about it here, I don't see the need of discarding jokes completely, they are not per se unprofessional, I'd only advise to not make them (sound) offending. I fully agree to the fact that the Windows console is not good at all, so I personally liked Dan's idea with the "don't worry".

[brieweb]

Debian GNU/Linux is the OS of purists. The great thing is that Debian GNU/Linux runs flawlessly with ACPI, suspend, Gnome 2, etc on this Thinkpad T60 I picked up off ebay with no proprietary drivers. Debian keeps going and going and going. If you would want to boast using an OS that uses backslash as a file separator and forced upgrades, be my guest!

[khooke]

Given that your own JBoss Tools usage stats are showing that the lagest majority of your users are on Windows (yes, I was surprised too), I'd suggest you don't alienate your own users...

https://community.jboss.org/en/tools/blog/tags/usage

[lincolnthree]

Locking this topic. I don't think we need to keep re-hashing this one. Please continue discussions on a new thread if desired, but I don't think we need to keep digging up an already resolved OS-bashing debate on the forums. Also, if you'd like to continue discussions, I'd like to ask that a more objective subject line be used so we can stick to the facts.

Thanks all.