OSGi Roadmap ideas and request for feedback

[thomas.diesler]

Folks,

with jboss-as-7.1.2 almost out of the door it time to ponder a little what to do next for the AS7/OSGi integration. Here a few ideas in no particular order

A) Improved Repository

The repository should provide an API that allows add/remove of atrtefacts [JBOSGI-549]. The repository metadata should be persistent [JBOSGI-525]. There should be a management view for the repository [AS7-4690].

B) OSGi Cloud Support in OpenShift

As well as providing the core OSGi functionality in OpenShift, we need to provide management capabilities, documentation and working examples [JBOSGI-550].

C) Core Framework update to R5

Provide an R5 compliant core implementation. Among other things, this is needed for Subsystem/Application support [JBOSGI-497]

D) HttpService/WebApp support on top of JBossWeb

The is a long standing issue that should replace PaxWeb/Jetty with the JBossWeb implementation that is in AS7 [AS7-351].

E) Allign deployment lifecycle with OSGi

OSGi bundles provide a module in the RESOLVED state. If this was happening as part of the normal deployment unit processing (DUP) chain. It'd be possible to use OSGi metadata in any deployment type supported by AS7. We could then have modular EJB3, Web, CDI, etc deployments as well as the general ability to start/stop AS7 deployments. [AS7-4243]

F) Support for Framework restart in AS7

It should be possible to modify the framework configuration and restart the framework in AS7. This is especially important for a Framework instance running in OpenShift [AS7-4691].

G) JPA support on Hibernate

JPA should be usable from OSGi (in hte standard way) using the JPA provider thgat is available in AS7. [JBOSGI-260]

H) CDI/OSGi Integration

There is a project by Mathieu Ancelin that integrates Weld with OSGi. This should be integrated in AS7. [JBOSGI-445]

I) OSGi for Mobile Platforms

As part of our 3D strategy, I'd like to investigate in OSGi on mobile platforms [JBOSGI-551].

I look forward to receiving your feedback and of course generally encourage involvement in this tech.

cheers

-thomas

[bosschaert]

Hi Thomas,

I think it would also good to consider Subsystem support (as specified in the Enterprise R5 specs). One of the things that this would bring is the support for deploying .esa files (Enterprise Subsystem Archives) - a collection of bundles that together form an application.

Cheers,

David

[thomas.diesler]

Yes, this would hopefully come for free when there is Core R5 support [JBOSGI-497]

[codeprince]

I aslo think C) is most important thing.

[garyaiki]

Since RedHat bought FuseSource they've said nothing about OSGI, which Fuse bases their products on, only Camel and CXF. RedHat has webinars in 2 weeks about the roadmap after the buyout and OSGI is not on the agenda. At EclipseCon, in March, both Peter Kriens and Neil Bartlet teased us with a demo of resolving dependencies directly in Eclipse's Java editor using the new services. I assume they connected a repository to the editor and loaded bundles by class name. This would be a huge improvement over both pom first and manifest first development and I can't understand why RedHat is silent about this.

[marklittle]

What specifically do you think we've been silent about? Until the deal with Progress to acquire the Fuse team officially closed, we were legally prevented from making any announcements. That deal only closed a couple of weeks ago. The roadmap webinars you mentioned will cover OSGi to a degree, but it is only a small piece of the picture. Therefore, if you attend expecting to hear a 1 hour presentation on OSGi, you will be disappointed. But rest assured that OSGi remains important to us and we have no plans to drop it or ignore it.

[thomas.diesler]

The JBossOSGi project releases, which is our main channel for feature updates, bug fixes, documentation, announcements, etc has indeed been a little silent lately - for that I appologize. This doesn't mean we've been lazy or have lost interest in OSGi support in AS7. Infact the contrary the is true if you look at the resolved jira issues for the OSGi component in 7.2.0.Alpha1

Here is my favorite

* [AS7-5051] Allow EE deployments as OSGi bundles

The silence is because we haven't had an AS7 project release for quite some time and I prefer to talk about stuff that folks can actually try out on a readily available download. With the next jbosgi release there will be a flood of information and hopefully you'll like it.

If you want to have a one hour talk about OSGi in AS7 you can come to Munich tomorrow. I'll be talking about

*  OSGi in complex Enterprise Applications on AS7

The same talk can be heard in Brno early November and hopefully in Beijing for JUDCon 2012.

If you're interested about the latest you can also reach out to me on IRC #jbosgi or on the forum (as you do already).

Thanks for your interest

[codeprince]

Thomas Diesler による書き込み:

The JBossOSGi project releases, which is our main channel for feature updates, bug fixes, documentation, announcements, etc has indeed been a little silent lately - for that I appologize. This doesn't mean we've been lazy or have lost interest in OSGi support in AS7. Infact the contrary the is true if you look at the resolved jira issues for the OSGi component in 7.2.0.Alpha1

Here is my favorite

* [AS7-5051] Allow EE deployments as OSGi bundles

The silence is because we haven't had an AS7 project release for quite some time and I prefer to talk about stuff that folks can actually try out on a readily available download. With the next jbosgi release there will be a flood of information and hopefully you'll like it.

If you want to have a one hour talk about OSGi in AS7 you can come to Munich tomorrow. I'll be talking about

*  OSGi in complex Enterprise Applications on AS7

The same talk can be heard in Brno early November and hopefully in Beijing for JUDCon 2012.

If you're interested about the latest you can also reach out to me on IRC #jbosgi or on the forum (as you do already).

Thanks for your interest

Hi Thomas,

   Is there anywhere to get the session pdf of OSGi in complex Enterprise Applications on AS7 ?and I want to see it.

Thanks!

--Tang

[bosschaert]

Thomas Diesler wrote:

If you want to have a one hour talk about OSGi in AS7 you can come to Munich tomorrow. I'll be talking about

*  OSGi in complex Enterprise Applications on AS7

The same talk can be heard in Brno early November and hopefully in Beijing for JUDCon 2012.

Best of luck with your talks, Thomas.

[thomas.diesler]

Sure, here it is: http://www.slideshare.net/tdiesler/as7-osgi-onedaytalk-2012

[codeprince]

Thomas Diesler による書き込み:

Sure, here it is: http://www.slideshare.net/tdiesler/as7-osgi-onedaytalk-2012

Hi Thomas,

  Because of networking on China, I can not access slideshare currently, so whether having other places can access it or not?

Thanks!

--Tang

[thomas.diesler]

You can shoot me an email if that helps