3 Replies Latest reply on Aug 8, 2014 11:20 AM by Mike Thompson

    Design change?

    Heiko Rupp Master

      Hello,

       

      RHQ-metrics works quite nicely so far and the REST-interface has become powerful with e.g. the Influx handler and all the capabilities to retrieve data points and series in batches and so on. Unfortunately this has caused a bit of a mismatch between REST-api and Java api (and yes I am guilty here). The following picture shows the situation:

       

      RHQ-metrics-now.png

      The Java and the REST api exist next to each other.

       

      While this is probably no real big issue in standalone situations where the REST api is the genuine go-to point, it becomes an issue where RHQ-metrics should be embedded in a larger scenario like e.g. the next RHQ version where RHQ-metrics is possibly co-located with other services and direct Java communication is much faster then first marshalling objects into JSON to go over a REST-interface to be unmarshalled again.

       

      Also right now, all functionality is pretty much hard-coded and it is not possible to extend the functionality of the core (e.g. different data mangling) in a user serviceable way.

      InfluxDB has a sql-like query language that allows to say something like "select min(x) .. group by 30s"  to only return the minimum value of all values that were stored within a 30s bucket. As such a language is dynamically parsed on the server, adding more aggregate functions in a pluggable way could be possible by having plugin-methods implementing functions like "matches(name)" and "compute(param, timeseries)" (this is only for explanation and no real interface).

       

      The other point is that in a scenario like RHQ, where a client would push metrics to RHQ-metrics via Java or REST-interface, the data would also need to be forwarded to other subsystems like alerting (in fact even in RHQ-metrics it could make sense to directly push those new data points or aggregates thereof to the UI via Errai or Websocket, so that the UI updates dynamically instead of having it to poll constantly).

       

      With those comments in mind I would propose to change the architecture to follow more this picture:

       

      RHQ-metrics-proposed.png

      Here the REST-api is really only a very thin layer, translating the internal domain objects into their external representations and having the JAVA-api define the real API, that is then available in Java and REST.

      All incoming data would be passed to listeners if present that can then do additional forwarding to 3rd party systems (I guess such listeners should also be pluggable).

       

      The aggregation / computation plugins would probably work on the Java-Api level, working on data that has already been retrieved from the core.

      In the longer term we may want to have additional plugins that e.g. do hourly / nightly batch processing as pre-computing time series that take too long to do it on the fly.

        • 1. Re: Design change?
          John Sanda Apprentice

          The REST layer should definitely be a thin layer, delegating as much functionality as possible to the core Java layer. Any types of computations like aggregate functions should be done in the core Java layer. I thought that was already the case, but it has been a while since I have looked at the code.

           

          With respect to adding aggregate functions in  pluggable way, I think that scripting could be a really good option. I worked on adding this kind of functionality in https://github.com/zznate/intravert-ug.

           

          While I have no intention of resurrecting old debates, I do want to mention something about your comments on passing data to listeners if present and plugins. You do realize that Vert.x already provides this very functionality? The prototype I did deployed the REST layer as one Vert.x module and the core Java layer as a separate Vert.x module. The REST module ran an HTTP server and would then pass data via the event bus to "listeners", i.e., the core Java module. Maybe I am misunderstanding something in what you are describing...

          • 2. Re: Design change?
            mazz Master

            It would be interesting to investigate Vert.x and using it as the plugin layer. Vert.x can embed nicely and doesn't have a large footprint. It might be a good idea to investigate it for use as a "plugin container" for this rhq-metrics plugin feature.

            • 3. Re: Design change?
              Mike Thompson Novice

              The architecture change definitely makes sense as the decoupling will gives much more flexibility to integrate with external systems. The implementation probably needs to be discussed a bit more to determine advantages/disadvantages to each solution.